Part 11 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Yes from the lynch mob that wanted Galileo silence or dead thanks to the Catholic church he was save and later recognize as the Father of Modern Science a recognition that his rivals refused to do until the church made it so.

I sold my soul to God which is better than what anti Christians have done which is sell their soul to the devil.

They have children and they were training their children to be evil and wicked generation after generation evil will never die on its own without the intervention of good.

Nope, God intervene to help the good people that is why history have shown over and over again "crime does not pay"

From their personal church wrong misinterpretation to do evil that is why in the end good triumph just like Stalin rationalize murdering millions in his name just like the Amalekites.

I said no wicked babies I did not specifically said Amalekites babies since you have brought it up yes there were babies babies that were being groomed to continue their parents wicked ways. Just like the Nazi youth.

 

Since you are responding to a post I made that was intended for Akhlut, I'm going to assume that you are in agreement with him when he was quoted as saying:

So now I'm going to give you the same response I gave him after he responded back to me.

If you had done some thorough research as to why men were valued at 50 compared to women valued at 30 you wouldn't have misinterpreted it to mean that God viewed women as second-class citizens at best or chattel at worst. Your exact words are quoted below.

Now let me the explain the correct reason why men were valued higher than women.

When a man consecrates by a vow certain persons to the Lord there was a valuation process needed to be followed, we see that in Leviticus 27:3-8 the redemption price for men, women, and children were different based on age and gender. What did it mean to consecrate a person to the Lord? It could be done either for one's self, or on behalf of another (such as consecrating a child unto the Lord). This was a completely voluntary act, meant to demonstrate that this person was totally given to God.

When a vow was made, the amount of the offering as I said above varied based on age and gender. Below is the valuation list.

Males 60 and over: 15 shekels
Females 60 and over: 10 shekels
Males ages 20—60: 50 shekels
Females ages 20—60: 30 shekels
Males ages 5—20: 20 shekels
Females ages 5—20: 10 shekels
Males ages 0—5: 5 shekels
Females ages 0—5: 3 shekels

Clearly, the males 20—60 years of age required the highest price, and males were more expensive to dedicate than females. The reason appears to be based on the person’s ability to work in an agricultural society and on how many years that person could work. A male aged 20—60 was seen as someone who could perform the best labor, therefore resulting in the highest price. Those over 60 and under 20 could do some work, but not as much, traditionally. Those 5 years old and under required the lowest price, as they would have been unable to work much or at all.

So again it was nothing to do with God viewing women as 2nd class citizens at best or chattel at worst as you seem to believe it to be but it had all to do based on the person's ability to work in an agricultural society and on how many years that person could work.

As we all know generally speaking it is a fact that men are physically stronger than women, anyone denying this known fact is, shall we say, an dishonest person.

God sees all of us as equals. The New Testament notes different roles for men and women but affirms the equality of both.

Scripture tells us, "Faith in Christ Jesus is what makes each of you equal with each other, whether you are a Jew or a Greek, a slave or a free person, a man or a woman."---Galatians 3:28 CEV

 

Ha!...I was right! didn't I say you weren't going to accept my explanation?...I did....I did say it. My quote below proves it....lol

Oh btw I corrected one typo error that was made on my original post.

So with that out of the way let me continue on and say so what's the sense in my responding to your follow-up comments?...there is absolutely no sense whatsoever.

But I will respond to your last statement that you made after I tell you go back and read my full post again because that is my final response to you regarding the issue of babies being killed. Maybe this time if you read it without any kind of a negative bias towards it, you would begin to accept it as being a rational, thoughtful explanation.

For your convenience I made it easy for you. Just click on the link below. Oh here's an idea, why don't you print it out and keep it for your records for easy reference...eh? Maybe the more times you read it, it will really sink in.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=340359&page=21&p=1063559601#post1063559601

Actually to become a devoted believer you need to give up your irrational and thoughtless ways and start accepting and not denying the truth. Like they say "the truth will set you free."

 

Again you are misinterpeting Scripture this time concerning the Apostle Paul and so no, for the ones who interpret Scripture correctly, it is not apparent that women are viewed as second-class citizens at best or chattel at worst.

I already explained to you how you misinterpreted the reason why men were valued as 50 shekels as opposed to women valued at 30 shekels.

Do I also need to explain to you that you are also misinterpreting Paul?

 

God never explicitly state that women are worthless than men neither has St. Paul.
In fact God is very clear "Hail Mary full of Grace" "Behold your mother" and St. Paul was very clear speaking speaking at a time when women were heavily discriminated and deny education St. Paul reprimanding the men to stop pretending they are educated and that to women to take the opportunity to learn and educate by learning from men so that men and women can become true prophets.

 

Better to have a brain somewhere than none at all. You should see if you can get one. LOL.

 

Why? Don't women want eternal bliss like men? Being told to be quiet doesn't stop them from wanting eternal bliss.

 

Nope. Not this time either.

 

So a leader in a group is #1. NO women can ever be a leader, in church or at home. But that doens't mean to you they are not a lesser person than a leader.
And you wonder why folks think you don't see things clearly? Or you misinterpret things constantly?

 

Of course he and you are wrong. LOL. And not very sensible or logical. Irrational is a good word also.

 

http://biblehub.com/colossians/3-19.htm
The bible states many things.
Women are the weaker of the 2.

 

Scripture tells us, ◄ Colossians 3:18 ►
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Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

 

Let's not forget what we read in Scripture, "These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God." Gen. 6:9 NASB

No, God knew the world would be sinful again, but He had to purge all the wickedness in a World gone wrong. He was protecting the blood-line that was eventually going to lead to the Messiah, our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

 

No, it's really not that He isn't trying hard enough, the reality is people hear His word but the majority are rejecting it. He's not going to force anyone to believe in Him, He leaves it up to us to choose.

It is true that there are more non-Christians than Christians. He already knows that most will reject Him, Jesus said, "You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it."---Matthew 7:13-14 NLT

Well you can disbelieve all you want but when the reality comes that it is indeed real, then all who didn't believe in it will indeed sit in judgment and have no choice...well technically they did have a choice when they were living but it's going to be obvious to them that they had made the wrong choice.

 

Well yes, absolutely, especially after I have given some thorough valid rational points, I have given some passages in Scripture to back up my statements and besides I'm the one that's not in denial of the Christian faith.

Guys like you and the rest of your atheistic, non-believing fraternity will always try to attempt to discredit the Bible and its believers but find it to always be a useless futile exercize.

 

The Levites were running an extortion racket. People had to pay the going rate in order to ransom their family members from the Levites. They were a crime syndicate.

 

Babies and children are not of a moral accountable age.

So basically we're talking about adults here who are of moral accountable age. No one can boast that they have never ever sinned in their entire lives...nadie!

One last comment, the only way we could ever live a life that is sinless would be for God to make us all His puppets to do His will then that way we would all be forced to do only what is right.

 

Women are weaker - that's why we kill the dragons who like to take their god given rights away since thousands of years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGwzOap87zI

 

According to the Bible God got ticked off when his minions didn't kill everyone as he had told them to do. So it seems as if God's sense of right and wrong needs a lot of work.

 

You're welcomed with your biased response. At least you're being honest as to which side you're hanging your hat on...on the losing side!...lol j/k...simmer down now!...relax and take a deep breath!...lol

I don't want you to throw a tantrum now...you hear!..lol

 

Wrong!...see what happens when you guess? An unreasonable illogical non-thinking person is the right answer.

To add to it, it's a person who is in denial of the truth.

 

It is not about wanting it is about who is ready for eternal bliss men or women are both qualify as long as they are ready.

No women can be a priest, or pope just like NO MEN can be a nun or mother superior. Anyone can be a leader including women "Behold your mother" Can't you differentiate male and female?

 

Well this is about as silly as a post can get.
He had to protect the blood line? So the only way God could think of was to wipe out everything but for the ark. Left a sinful man and his sinful family to protect the blood line, protect it from what?

BTW - it does show in the thread of this, God made the flood. Via the wrath of God. You're loving God as you say.

 

Gotta love how a word means one thing one time and the same word means something else another time. Just another way of distorting things so it always shines a correct light on scripture.
So maybe man wasn't wicked and evil.

 

We already do his will. He knows everything about everyone already. We can't change the end game cuz God already knows the end game.
If we change and do something he doesn't know we're doing it or planning on changing our minds from what is already known, then God is not omniscient.