Part 11 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

You know....I think we should be all attempting to come to terms with certain realities and in doing so respect others beliefs but at the same time understand that certain REALITIES AND FACTS such as Evolution and the complete and utterly impossibility of some of the stories in the Old Testament which even all the Leaders of all current Religions that are specific to the Old Testament....Torah....or Qur'an....all have stated that the realities of Evolution cannot be contested and that the stories in Genesis are more important as for their moral lessons not for their scientific possibilities.

AboveAlpha

 

Without any hesitation I would much better prefer to do 24/7 for eternity than jumping into the lake of fire for eternity.
My mother didn't raise no fool!...lol

 

The concept of a HELL really makes no sense.

It is a contradiction as far as what is in the Bible and Revelation is really a JOKE as even the Roman Christian Biblical Canon rejected Revelation many times as being...TOO CRAZY and too violent a book i it's nature and conflicting with the Loving GOD message of the New Testament.

AboveAlpha

 

Well yes because it happens to be true, my fellow atheists friends keep misunderstanding what I say.

I guess it's because their minds are geared to interpret the way they want to understand it so as to make anything to do with the bible discredible. Atheists are afflicted with a disorder called misinterpretlitis...lol

When God combats evil, He is not committing evil Himself, rather He is punishing evil and justifiably so, thus God could never do evil. Everything He does is righteous!

He is perfectly Holy which means He does not sin. To committ evil is to sin.

 

Look....I have no intention of telling you what you should believe but when ones reads the Old Testaments Wrathful and Vengeful GOD....one is not getting a very warm fuzzy feeling! LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

I've pretty much answered this question concerning "righteous people". Go see my post on pg. 9 #82 of Part 5.

 

It's rather obvious that the Great Flood happened well before any pyramids were built.

 

Mitt...let me ask you something.

Do you believe the Great Flood was a local event or do you believe it occurred world wide?

AboveAlpha

 

How could there be any gaps? What are you talking about. Look if you're going to say that Egypt has been continuously occupied since 5400BCE then it stands to reason that the Great Flood occured sometime prior to that date.

So how could the Great Flood occur after 5400BCE? If it did then you wouldn't have known that Egypt had a civilization at 5400BCE now would you? Any trace of it wouldn't have been wiped out by the Great Flood. So what is this gap you're talking about? It doesn't make sense.

 

As written in Scripture it was world wide, the entire earth was flooded.

 

OK...I will not attempt to try to tell you your beliefs are wrong as Religion is a question of Faith...but I will ask you...given the impossibility of a world wide flood occurring and such a thing is proven by many factors including everything from the total amount of existing water either liquid or solid ice that even if all of this melted it still could not come close to covering the entire Earth....or the issues of Celestial Mechanics as adding the amount of water to raise sea level to 5.5 Miles higher than it is now...as this is approx. the height of Everest....and to do this would actually change the Gravitational Effect of Earth Gravity Well.

If that happened not only would the increase in total mass of the Earth cause a 100 lbs person to weigh approx. 109 lbs but as well it would concentrate our Atmosphere due to such a sea level rise and increase in Gravity Effect to make breathing air like breathing soup....thus people and animals could not breath.

But the worse thing that would happen is two fold....the Moon would start a spiraling decaying orbit around Earth which would result in an eventual impact of the Moon and Earth and EVEN WORSE....the Earth's CENTRIPETAL force along with Earth's lunar mass addition around the Sun would exceed the Sun's Gravitational Effect and ability to hold Earth and Earth's Moon in orbit thus Earth and it's Moon would break Solar Orbit and freeze in the depths of space.

Never mind the amount of time it would take to get two of every species of animal and at least one of every species of asexual reproducing plant aboard a boat.

So...given all these VERY REAL mathematical and physics related impossibilities....I am just really interested in how you can IGNORE them even if you are very religious?

AboveAlpha

 

So Jesus is recorded as saying it. He was still using an OT metaphor as he often does for his Jewish listeners. Simply because they, as Jews, understood the Tanakh. This '2 ways' metaphor was well known.

 

On the contrary. It has been proven to you that much of the Bible is myth handed down, and that there is no evidence of many events, in fact evidence that some events did not occur as the Bible says.

You simply do not accept facts, just faith.

 

Yeah I don't know whats in the minds of Catholics, THATS WHY I ASKED YOU WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO!!!! You as of this date have illustrated that you have no idea either.
You wrote a lot and did not answer the question at all!! You also made a strawman. I didn't ask why other non religious people think of women as inferior. I already know they are misogynists. Back to Catholics... since they don't have strongman contests to elect the Pope and you yourself said women and men are mentally equals, its a fair question to ask WHY DONT THEY LET WOMEN VOTE FOR POPE? You have failed to answer over the course of months and at this point I will write this off as a complete debate win. Your faith has not provided you with a cogent response and the threads show in black and white I have been more than patient trying to coax an answer out of you.
You simply don't know why women aren't allowed to vote for pope and don't really care to find out. I have proven that.

 

Debate on this question is over. I have won. You have failed to answer the original question and make repeated Strawmans. No where did I say scripture said having a Penis gives you wisdom. I made an observation based on the fact that women aren't allowed to vote for Pope. Therefore as a pure fact in order to vote for Pope you must have male Genitalia. If that statement is incorrect please let us know. You cant though so please move on. Im not waiting indefinitely for you to answer. Your answer is you don't know why women aren't allowed to vote for Pope other than they simply aren't allowed.

 

We do not know how many wings those angels have.
Child, baby and human sacrifice, cannibalism were eradicated, village or ethnic cleansing was stop and now humans have learn how to fight back and have since after the Noah's flood have gain the courage, fortitude and will to fight back and make this world a better place this is what God's intervention have accomplished God gave the few good humans a fighting chance.

Mary is not a God or god.
Mary has attain angelic status that intercedes on behalf of God.
No people don't have to worship Mary they can pray and ask for her intercession. Worship is to God alone.
Mary has no Godly powers.
She gave birth to God whom God chose to be with us through human birth and Mary is that surrogate. God could have easily just appear with out going through the human process of birth but God is not about to do that because He wants us to know that He understand us.

 

You forgot to include the fact that the Alps, the high mountains of the Himalayas, North America can experience massive snow storm, blizzards that covers the highest mountain making it very uninhabitable environment to any humans or animals then there is the great sand storm that turn once fertile lands to deserts oh then there is the great volcanic eruptions too all of these = Great Flood.

Today's scientist are now prophesying of a great flood the end of the world they call it CLIMATE CHANGE remember secular scientist are making this predictions.

 

???????????.....seriously?

 

Wiping out evil is good. Wiping out humanity is not. Does God not have the power to wipe out evil and still keep his creation?

You don't believe God is omniscient. You are maybe the only christian to think so.
By distancing you mean he doesn't know?

Wasn't what I asked or said.
Lucifer will have more souls, yes or no?

Not according to revelations.

What lucifer knows or doesn't know is irrelevant. He will have more souls.

So no free will. That is what I said.

Bearing false witness as you do with every post is not choosing God. No matter how dense the thought is.

 

Stawman. Again.
What does the prison population have to do with women, shown to you via scripture, is subservient to man.
False witnessing isn't something one should do.

 

It will be 9 months to a year before he can answer your question. He is getting close to a year behind.
But he has stated he believe the bible flood exactly as stated in the bible. Covering all but the highest mountain.

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Glad you cleared up you don't believe everything in the bible.

 

Mary, mother(female) of God, is less than her son(male), God.
That is what many have said. Women are less than men.

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Yep. LOL.

 

Proof? All I have is the Word of God, where He told us in Scripture that He flooded the entire earth. Do you have proof that refutes what I have said?

Have you considered that the Great Flood story is meant to be literally true? The Bible has several books that contain moral instruction and are commonly known as didactic.

As compared to the books of Moses, that contain direct and mandatory commandments of God, the didactic books are written with the intent of encouraging people to live a godly life.

They teach a person to live his/her life in such a way that it will be blessed by God, filled with well-being and peace of mind. This category includes the books of Job, Psalms, Proverbs of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs.

The five books of Moses are not in the category of the books I have mentioned above, they are in essence historical written books as are the books of the New Testament.

For example, in the book of Genesis, the story of the Great Flood of Noah is to be taken literally, when God told us He flooded the entire earth, He means exactly that...He flooded the entire earth because He observed the extent of human wickedness on the earth, and He saw that everything they thought or imagined was consistently and totally evil.

So I hope I have opened your mind as well as your eyes concerning your misunderstanding of the Holy Bible. It would be false to believe that the entire Bible is of didactic literature.

 

In other words.....you have no proof. Thing is....no one expects to offer you Dis-Proof of your God, because you cannot prove or disprove a negative.