Part 13 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Mitt Ryan, Feb 25, 2014.

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  1. thebrucebeat

    thebrucebeat Banned

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    You think all ordained ministers believe as you do?
    You are unexposed to Christianity outside your tiny world of your church.
     
  2. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HUH? how old is this post? Why are you incapable of answering these questions in a timely manner? Its not like there are a lot, its just the same ones over and over. Also, apparently Woody and I were talking so if you feel questions were nugatory then you wouldn't have responded. The fact that you did means the question bothered you enough to write what you wrote. Again if you believe a human ever lived to 950 years old........wow.
     
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    Actually if you confess your sins to a priest you are confessing to another human not god. That's a fact. You don't need to confess to me, Im just curious since Mitt said I MUST have committed sins when the priest asked me after I said I didn't, I was curious to see if you two commit sins every week. I believe I even said you don't need to list them just tell us how many. Also, if you are catholic, you confess your sins to a man not to god. This man then gives you penance. If god is all knowing then why does he need the surrogate priest interface to hear our sins?
    By the way nice bail out, Im not judging you or giving you penance. All I want to know is what sins religious people make every week. You and I both know you are sitting there right now thinking 0. I knew you both would refuse to answer. Somehow you knew I sinned but refuse to list your own. Delicious hypocrisy.
     
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    If you really mean that, as you say you do, does that not throw into question your 'honesty'. We have all clearly seen the twists and turns of WarRens posts as he has been rightly challenged, and the twisting of other posters words to try to justify himself. 'You' and 'WarRen' remind me of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. 1 person - split personalities.
     
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    You asked me about mine. Thanks for repeatedly showing the readers how hypocritical religious people are.
    As I already have proven you confess your sins to another man not god. Say all you want, the guy behind the screen puts his pants on the same way I do in the morning.
    Also, Im a "character" now? Im "silly" More insults Mitt? My, weren't you just saying you never insulted me? You have been caught on the record now officially lying. I do enjoy knowing I destroyed your arguments. This same underlying anger I have seen before. Its the next human reaction to being forced into a mental corner when losing an argument. We call this a "tell".
    Why are religious people so filled with anger towards their fellow man? More hypocrisy.
    WOW asking you two to list your sins really hit a nerve. Don't worry, I have a lot more that get progressively worse to answer. You see, Ive never lost this debate. You are already in the anger stage and I haven't even made it out of my remedial questions yet. Most at least got to the middle stage questions before being belligerent. This is where you say you aren't angry and commit another lie. Everyone reading knows you are. So far your sins are insulting another person and telling lies. That's two so far this week.
     
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    So basically you don't have any answers whatsoever other than "god made it so". Surely there is one skeleton you can find that proves your claim that humans once lived to 950 years. You state the bible is not a science book. We know that, there isn't a single scientific fact in it and there never will be, therefore its fiction.
     
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    I wonder what their teeth were made of?
     
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    god enamel. good for eating babies
     
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    very good enamel to last for hundreds of years of wear and no dentist.
     
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    Yes, and your dogma is to tear the Bible by all means that include to distort the Bible, deny modern science, promoting false science such as humans are apes all in the name to discredit the Bible. Christian dogma is about truth what is your dogma am I correct that it is all about counter truth?
     
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    You have been misleading us. You have stated numerous times you believe the bible is 100% inerrant literal word of God. Now you say some things are not to be taken literally.
    Try to be consistent. It won't ruin your credibility. Oh, never mind.
     
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    Uhm?? You believe Obama Nation = Abomination really??? Don't you know that Harry Potter is a fiction? Does this mean you believe in the flying spaghetti?
     
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    He is being intellectually dishonest? ha ha. You can't even read the bible correctly and can't read the words written. IE moses' uncles heart being hardened. So there is dishonesty but its not him or most others here.
    BTW - only you and wanren have provided us with adults ate children, babies, and fetuses. Now how dishonest is that? That is one whopper of a lie. Don't you agree?
     
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    Then why you are demanding us to confess our sins to you if you just confirm you are no priest and no pastor.

    Your curiosity should start with you confessing your sin since you do not accept the priest or pastor then you should confess to a lawyer, judge or to President Obama! So, are you a sinner or not?

    You are not qualified to give penance. We have admitted openly that we are sinners why can't you are you a perfect human a son of god? Have you list your sins? You can't even admit you are a sinner or to whom do you confess your sins Delicious hypocrisy!
     
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    It appears, that to be a good christian set by the standards of mitt and WR, insults and lying are characteristics. And that will give them a special place in the afterlife. And paradise isn't the place.
     
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    I am a Christian but that is irrelevant. I do not speak for all Christians and nor do I claim to. You are the one that makes statements like "we Christians". What you should be saying is "We evangelical fundamentalist Christians believe ... "

    Not all Christians believe all the same things.

    The God of the Israelites during the time of Moses through Persia acted like a tyrant.

    Perhaps your definition of tyrant is different than mine. How do you define "tyrant"

    The early church fathers did not believe Jesus was "God-the father". Every time Jesus refers to "God" he is referring to someone other than himself.

    Clearly Satan did not think Jesus was God and Satan would know as he talks directly to God and often does Gods bidding.

    Not sure what Bible you are talking about but the story I read has Jesus submitting himself to the Romans for persecution.

    If Jesus was truly God and had stood up to the Romans (hurling a few thunderbolts and so on) that would have made for a great story but it did not happen.





    You teach your children fear and to not question. If they do not "believe" and/or question dogma children are told they will roast in hell for eternity.

    All I have done is showed you what the Bible says and not blinded myself to reality. I am not the one trying to justify killing of Babies (and your shields argument is a joke ... when using a sword to kill rather than a cluster bomb you are able to avoid killing babies")

    The fact of the matter is that God commanded that babies be killed. Even if the Israelites could they were not to spare anyone in some towns ..they were directed to kill all women, children and babies.

    And that my friend is "the ugly truth"
     
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    To be a good Christian is to not to distort the Bible, not to lie about the Bible, not to lie about your neighbors, love your enemies, love your adversaries, do not insult others.
     
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    That excludes you then.
     
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    I would agree. And your posts show you do distort, lie about what people post and insult.
    Show us you actually do what you say and not the opposite.
     
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    What a tragedy!
    You simply don't qualify.
    You distort the bible, lie about what it says, lie about people that post to you and misrepresent their posts, you are dismissive and rude to people that don't agree with you.
     
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    If you are a Christian then why do you keep on insisting that God killed innocent babies in Genesis 6 or why can't you accept that God punish the wicked and evil? Or you a Christian like dairyair?

    All Christians believe in Jesus Christ is the Son of God is God,. do you?


    See and you refer yourself a Christian? The tyrants were the Persian, Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonians, Greek, Amalekate leaders and baby killers.

    I am sure we have different understanding of what is a tyrant. For me a tyrant is one who have total disregard for human rights, have no respect for the weak, is totally against anything that is good and support wicked and evilness. God is totally against tyrants and tyrants are totally against God.

    The early church were the Apostles and the 1st generation Christians who all believed and accept Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is God because of the Resurrection that confirm Jesus Christ claim and the angels pronouncement that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    It would be later Christians from the 2nd to 3rd century especially after the 3rd century when Christianity was no longer a crime that several individuals started to create their own Christianity these are refer to as Heretics they will cpome up with all sorts of claims including the one that you are making now "Every time Jesus refers to "God" he is referring to someone other than himself".

    Satan did not know you thought Jesus was another holy man that he can tempt and Satan learn in the end that Jesus is the Son of God when Jesus reprimanded Satan and reminded or reveal to Satan who Jesus really is:
    Luke 4:12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Jesus told Satan "thou shall not tempt the Lord they God" who was Satan tempting? Jesus Christ and what did Jesus respond to Satan THOU SHALL NOT TEMPT THE LORD THEY GOD if Jesus is not God he would have said something differently like thou shall not tempt the servant of God clearly when Jesus reveal himself to Satan, Satan walk away knowing now who Jesus Christ is He is God in human form. :pray:

    Yes and Jesus did not submit to the tyrannical Roman rule or the Pharisees.
    John 18:Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."

    That were the same or identical challenge presented to Jesus Christ;
    Matthew 27: 40 Well then, if you are the Son of God, save yourself and come down from the cross!"

    They dare Jesus to walk in water change water to wine in front of them to prove he is God
    [video=youtube;Z9ALiADrJro]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9ALiADrJro[/video]


    You mean that you teach your children and all citizens that if they do not bow down to the tyrant they'll be send to the labor camps and re education camp, children are also taught to spy on their parents, friends, brothers, sisters and neighbors is that it.


    You have shown nothing from the Bible except your personal misinterpretation of the Bible to push your anti Bible agenda. You justify the protection and spread of wickedness and evil by using babies as shield to stop God from punishing the wicked and evil that is the most wicked and evil way to do :(

    You are now talking about the Amalekite aggression against the Jews. You chose to ignore Genesis that clearly stated that God punish the wicked and evil that is fine you also chose to ignore the Amalekite cruelty against anyone that stand in their way especially their war of ethnic cleansing against the Jews. So you are saying that it is ok for the Amalekites to kill Hebrew babies and women???

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    Yes I understand and it is really ugly and sad that you are for the wicked and evil that it is okay to kill the babies of good people but not the babies of the wicked and evil :(
     
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    Originally Posted by WanRen View Post
    To be a good Christian is to not to distort the Bible, not to lie about the Bible, not to lie about your neighbors, love your enemies, love your adversaries, do not insult others.

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    Base on your twisted standard yes that would exclude me but base on actual standard no and this is the reason why I must keep sharing the truth.
     
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    Indeed I will never quality to be a distorter of the Bible and I will never be one.
    I think you are referring to you and your colleagues because so far all of your post have been all of that distort the bible, lie about what it says, lie about people that post to you and misrepresent their posts, you are dismissive and rude to people that don't agree with you. :(

    Waite a minute??? so if according to you I distort, lie and misrepresent the Bible does this mean that you all really accept the One and True Bible the Bible that speak about God punishing the wicked and evil (Genesis 6), the Bible that speak about just wars, the Bible that speak about Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Bible that speaks about all the Saints and that we should all worship Jesus Christ? If this is so then that is really good news!
     
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    I didn't know religious people got high? This is the most incoherent sentence Ive read in quite sometime.
     
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    it's been proven time and again you don't know the truth when it comes to interpreting scripture. You have twisted and turned on almost every subject, and twisted other people's posts to suit yourself. If you can't see that you need help.
     
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