Part 13 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

And these guy's wonder why people have doubts!!! LOL!!!

Endless Dogma....infinite Contradictions....ZERO Tangible Proof....and even all that would not bother me....but what does is the SELF RIGHTEOUS!!!

You see....in any Religion there are bound to be people who just take it a step too far.

Inevitably regardless whether a Religion teaches Love and Forgiveness....there will ALWAYS be some who will forget about the MEANING AND REASONS of what a Religion was meant to tech as they embrace DOGMA AND SCRIPTURE which usually mold it into something else all together.

AboveAlpha

 

WR comprehends the Bible very well, it is you with the comprehension issues. You keep misinterpreting what you read in the Bible, and what others are saying in their posts...I tell ya you really need to improve your comprehension ability, IMHO of all the non-believers that I have encountered on my threads you are the King of the misinterpreters!

 

What part of "the majority of Christianity does not believe in inerrancy" do you not understand ?
Montanism is considered heresy by Christianity

Nice job in diverting the thread now that your ridiculous claims about Satan have been shown to be just that.

That your claim "God created everything that exists" means that God created Satan and so your beliefs are shown to be flat out wrong.

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Hey Gift....I am fairly certain Lucifer is brother to 7 other arc Angels and that Michael is his Big Brother and other brothers are Gabriel, Rafael...etc....and GOD is their Father.

GOD supposedly asked all the Angels to bow down and serve Man and Lucifer refused saying to GOD..."Why Father should we bow and serve Man as Man is flawed.

Lucifer was supposedly the most loved Angel by GOD but because Lucifer would not bow down to Man he was cast out of Heaven as GOD ordered Lucifer's Big Brother Michael to throw him out.

AboveAlpha

 

I have always been a man and because I have always admit and have been a man not an ape all my posting has always conform with facts and truth while your are full of self contradictions.

From the evolution of man, origin of the universe, Genesis, Noah's Ark, Moses (Exodus), Kings, Judges, Deuteronomy, Resurrection of Jesus Christ, and New Testament you have only self contradicted yourself.

Ok, let us discuss the Red Sea crossing first before we go to the Tablets of the Ten Commandments. You claim if I understand you correctly there was no departing of the red sea that Moses crossed the red sea with all the old, young, weak and healthy Hebrews through a body of water?? How high was the water 10 feet? How can the Hebrews with their animals cross 10 feet of water? Or did you said that the 10 feet of water some how got blown open from a strong wind?

And yes the OT was base on the Tanakh or Torah.

Take it easy you are starting to get hysterical.

 

I provide links so that the general public may know that what I posted is in conformity with the Bible and facts.
Not base on personally claims such as what you have been doing you read the link and where does it agree with your claim Moses cross the red or reed sea? Or maybe you missed the part that it is still being research this study prove that Moses and the story of Exodus is historical and not a myth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yam_Suph
Yam Suph (Hebrew: יַם-סוּ&#1507 is a phrase which occurs about 23 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament) and has traditionally been understood to refer to the salt water inlet located between Africa and the Arabian peninsula, known in English as the Red Sea. More recently, alternative western scholarly understandings of the term have been proposed for those passages where it refers to the Israelite Crossing of the Sea as told in Exodus 13-15. These proposals would mean that Yam Suph is better translated in these passages as Sea of Reeds or Sea of Seaweed; see Egyptian reed fields, also described as the ka of the Nile Delta. In Jewish sources I Kings 9:26 "yam suph" is translated as Sea of Reeds at Eilat on the Gulf of Eilat.


The Gulf of Aqaba, to the east/right. Also visible are the Gulf of Suez to the west/left, the Sinai Peninsula separating the two gulfs, and part of the Red Sea in the lower left corner.

In the Biblical narrative of The Exodus the phrase Yam Suph refers to the body of water that the Israelites crossed following their exodus from Egypt. The appropriate translation of the phrase remains a matter of dispute, as does the exact location referred to. One possible translation of Yam Suph is "Sea of Reeds", (suph by itself means 'reed', e.g. in Exodus 2:3). This was pointed out as early as the 11th century, by Rashi.[1]

This may refer to a large lake close to the Red Sea, which has since dried up due to the Suez Canal. It was in Egypt, specifically in the Suez valley next to the Sinai Peninsula, and north of the Gulf of Suez. It could also be the Gulf of Eilat, to which is referred in the Books of Kings (I Kings). The Lake of Tanis, a former coastal lagoon fed by the Pelusiac branch of the Nile, has also been advanced as the place Moses parted the waters.[2] Heinrich Brugsch suggests that the Reed Sea is Sabḫat al Bardawīl, a large lagoon on the north coast of the Sinai Peninsula.[3]
Ancient Nile delta.

The Nile delta at the time of Herodotus, according to James Rennell (1800).
More conjecturally, it has also been suggested that suph may be related to the Hebrew suphah ("storm") or soph ("end"), referring to the events of the Reed/Red Sea escape itself:

 

First of all I am talking about the stone tablets that the history and story of the Hebrews leaving Egypt and crossing the Reed Sea....as this is how we even KNOW of the story of Exodus.

You simply do not know the facts and the history of what actually happened and if you take the time to actually READ the link YOU SUPPLIED...it tells you of how Moses and the Hebrews crossed a marshy tidal region between the Med. Sea and the Red Sea called the REED SEA....and the words CROSSED....not PARTED....and the words REED SEA...not Red Sea....are on the stone carved tablets on in the Tanakh 23 TIMES.

This is what actually happened as these stone carvings and the Tanakh EXISTED BEFORE THE CHRISTIAN OLD TESTAMENT DID!!!!!

Yam Suph...which means REED SEA or SEA OF REEDS....clearly is written in the Tanakh 23 Times and exists on these Stone Tablets....and as I stated...this predates any Christian Old Testament.

Moses NEVER parted the Water of the Red Sea....Moses and the Hebrews CROSSED the REED SEA.

AboveAlpha

 

Thank you now you understand why the three greatest religion in the world all agree that God can not die. Judaism wanted to kill God by crucifixion they failed, Islam tried to kill God by changing going after His spirituality making Jesus Christ just a mere mortal man and they failed in fact according to Islam Jesus Christ their version of Jesus can not die because Allah will never allow anyone to kill Jesus.

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How can he, he can't even understand himself

 

Exactly WR! Yeah you should be ashamed you pretended to be a Christian Giftedone. What was the reason behind your pretending to be a Christian? Why such an obvious lie? Was it because of an exchange you had with WR? Below is the exchange I believe that got you to lie to WR.

Oh and regarding your statement, even if it is true that majority of Christianity does not believe in inerrancy that doesn't make it true that the bible is errant.

That is an appeal to popularity fallacy or an argumentum ad populum fallacy

 

You are really confused man first you pointed out the link that I provided the link that clearly stated the Yam Suph (Hebrew: יַם-סוּ&#1507 is a phrase which occurs about 23 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament) and has traditionally been understood to refer to the salt water inlet located between Africa and the Arabian peninsula, known in English as the Red Sea. More recently, alternative western scholarly understandings of the term have been proposed for those passages where it refers to the Israelite Crossing of the Sea as told in Exodus 13-15. These proposals would mean that Yam Suph is better translated in these passages as Sea of Reeds or Sea of Seaweed; see Egyptian reed fields, also described as the ka of the Nile Delta. In Jewish sources I Kings 9:26 "yam suph" is translated as Sea of Reeds at Eilat on the Gulf of Eilat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yam_Suph

Yes the Tanakh pre dates Christianity and Christianity accepted the Tanakh as the Old Testament that will form part of the Holy Bible.

See how you confuse yourself and you blame me for your own confusion

And now you are saying that Moses and the thousands of Hebrews cross this 10 feet of water right through it with babies, children old people and sick people they just cross and walk through 10 feet of water???? And you refused to explain how that can be???

 

Oh...this is priceless.

First of all the word FAITH is specific to Religion as a Religion cannot be definitively proven as no FACTS OR PROOF EXIST.

So you can't say you are posting Historical Facts.

Secondly even if we were to to use the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible/Old Testament) or the carvings on the Stone Tablets that the Old Hebrew Bible was developed from as far as this story....it DOES NOT STATE MOSES PARTED THE RED SEA.....it does not say Moses Parted the REED SEA.

It say's Moses...CROSSED the Reed Sea.

The King James Bible incorrectly states due to a Mistranslation that Moses PARTED the Red Sea.

No where is the word PARTED used on the oldest form of the Old Testament.

AboveAlpha

 

LOL The reason most of Christianity do not believe in inerrancy is because the Bible is errant.

This I have proven to you time and time again but you persist in your denial and your heretical Montanist beliefs.

 

That's an assumption on your part. Nowhere are we told this, either in the 4 Gospels or in any other Gospel that I am aware of.

Perhaps you should study the Jewish version of 'Satan' which is different to the Christian, and remember these people were Jews. They do not view 'Satan' as you do.
My personal view is that a Gospel writer recognised the temptations that Jesus must have felt in his position and put them into this form. Each individual faces temptations in the world according to their situation. If the Gospel writer, and you, accept Jesus as God's son he faced temptations none of us experience.
Because of their beliefs Christians face 'temptations' which most of us don't. We accept human nature. Jesus faced temptations, as the Son of god, which even Christians never have to face.

 

I've pointed out several problems with your interpretations over the past weeks but you've avoided them so far.

 

Another insult Mitt? You mean ..Is it sinking in as if I'm stupid right? The problem is Mitt, I'm not, I get things very easily and always have. I get things like the fact that you don't practice what you preach. A self professed man of god hurling insults and lies on a day to day basis. Thank you so much for illustrating exactly the behavior I wanted to expose. You respond exactly and I mean exactly like the ones before you. In fact religious people are so predictable in their responses, its actually interesting. You cant stand on the debate so you need to try to change the course to insults. Sorry not biting.

Back to WR
uhh, its still a response not an answer. No human has ever lived to 950 yrs old. Prove me wrong and supply the evidence I have repeatedly asked you for. God said so is not proof. Ive repeatedly asked you for proof on this. Using your bible as proof is a circular reference. Thats why when you are in court they don't rely on god said you did it to convict you. The real world requires tangible evidence. So evidence please or you both lose.....again. This is the last time Ill ask you for your proof of this claim. Surely you have skeletal evidence of Humans who were over 950 years old or did Bigfoot pick up them up and eat them?
Yes I know how the heart works because we have science that explains it. There is no science whatsoever that tells us people ever had the capability to live to 950 yrs.
P.S. another poster already explained the 950yr issue and it was perfectly acceptable. I would read his post and then change your story to his explanation. That way you wont be struggling on this question like you are now in the future. As it is now your next post needs evidence WHICH I WILL PREDICT NOW YOU WILL NOT SUPPLY because there isn't any except in imagination land.

 

Since we are posting thing from over a year ago. Remember when Mitt said they did not alter quote tags so the poster wasn't notified. Below is an example. Note it is not correct, he added a colon and then a dotted line under my quote. He said he didn't do it. Feel free to go back to #5 Mitt and see where you did this after you said you didn't. On the record lying wont help bring in new members to your church.

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What will heaven be for me when I get there?
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You have been expressing your disbelief in God with such disdain and so it doesn't make sense for you to ask such a question.

However for the saved who will go there it will be heavenly bliss in paradise for all eternity!

 

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