Solving this whole issue very easily

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Stadhouder, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for that post....I see my state is on the map... I see I must call my state senator who unfortunately is a Republican but he may have some sense.

    Funny how the Anti-Choicers always scream about taxes going to Planned Parenthood which isn't true but they never mention taxes going to this group...what a deceitful group..
     
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    Although Massachusetts rarely has much issues as far as crazy and militant Anti-Abortion Groups...we do tend to get groups from Ohio that come in to the State and set up shop.

    One of these groups set up near my home town and they did so REAL SNEAKY!!!

    There was a Survival Center a town over and I and my Family and our Employees would bring canned goods and cloths and many other things to this Survival Center that in the past was run by this very nice older Couple that a long time ago had fallen on hard luck and they had finally become wealthy and now that they were older and did not need to work....they ran this Survival Center.

    They would set up donation bags for Thanksgiving with a Turkey in each one and trimmings and we all pitched in.

    Then they retired from doing this and another couple in their early 50's took over for them...but what the original couple did not know this new couple were not even a couple at all as they were a PLANT....sent in to run the Survival Center and the building was still owned by the now Retired to Florida first couple.

    These two new SOB's started BLACKMAILING people saying...if they would get on a bus and drive to Boston or Worcester areas and spend a day holding a sign that said...BABY KILLERS....ETC....in front of a Planned Parenthood Clinic.....THEN....they would be given FOOD!!!

    We found out about it and told the original couple who still owned the building and they came back from Florida and proceeded to throw these SOB's out on their ASSES!!!!

    They had to run the Survival Center for a few months until they found people they could trust to take over for them and these people who owned the building were so nice they even sent letters to everyone on their list apologizing to those in need for the terrible experience.

    I can't think of many things that are AS LOW as withholding FOOD from a poor and hungry family so they will do your bidding.

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. kashsmith1981

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    I'm gonna continue paying attention to the news with regard to the abortion debate...if they ever overturn Roe v. Wade I'm going to buy some serious stock in a company that makes clothes hangers. Cha-Ching!

    Ok calm down, it was just a joke, jeez!

    *duck*

    But seriously, I think it should be legal, but I think that people who use it as a form of birth control are pathetic.
     
  4. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    It is a form of birth control.
     
  5. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I think it is easier said than done.
     
  6. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    The solution is far more simple; stop having aimless sex.

    Firstly, I'dlike to clarify that I do support abortion is case of 1.) rape and 2.)wjen mother's life is in danger. When abortion is used as a contraception I am 200% against it.

    The society of today is rather promiscious. We are encouraged to go out drinking and have aimless sex with as many partners as possible. A family is considered to be a "bad thing" because it ruins you career and freedom. Thus we get a lot of people who are not interested in committing to a serious relationship.

    Abortion in itself is not the problem. Rather it is what causes it- Sex. Abortions are only performed when a woman is pregnant and a woman can only get pregnant in one way- Sex(Unless she's Mother Mary, lol). I am not saying that one is not allowed to have one night stands, but then one should also be prepared to take the consequences of their actions. If you want sex, but no baby then use a condom. Simple. It is both the woman's and the man's responsibility to make sure it is used. If this cannot be fulfilled then one should just wait til they are in a stable relationship.

    Abortion is murder. If you have ever seen one being performed you would know this. It is not "just a fetus". It is indeed a life. If you think it is just a fetus then, if you have any consistency whatsoever, a miscarriage should not be percieved as a sad thing either. Afterall, !it was not even a life". Imagine the midwife saying that to the crying mother as comfort. :lol:

    In general there is a lot of inconsistency in this question, especially from the feminist side. They considered the abortion of girls performed in the "the thrid world" is a huge problem that must be stopped. At the same time abortion is considered to be a womans right. Heh.

    If there is one thing we all in here have in common it is the fact that we have all benefited from not being aborted. We are all lives and not just "choices" No one can possibly feel good after performing an abortion. I have read several cases of mother's(and father's) regretting their decision.

    All sorrow and idiocy can be prevented in one simple way- Condoms...Or we just stop viewing each other as sex objects and start to engage in serious relationships. Simple.
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Since there is NO WAY people will stop having sex it's much better an option to educate kids before they can either become pregnant or make someone pregnant on how to get and use Plan B and Morning After drugs that make it impossible for a fertilized egg cell be able to implant itself in the uterine wall.

    No possibility of pregnancy....no possibility of an abortion.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. Ritter

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    As far as I am concerned sex-ed is pcompulsory for all teenage-kids pretty much all over the (Western) world. No? And apparently it is not working.

    What do you mean by the bolded? Before....Like in Kindergarden? Are you crazy? That would make things even worse. Also, I am pretty sure everyone knows about pills and condoms and how they work, yet they don't use'em.
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    Yes, educating kids about sex and birth control does work. Does it work for every person on earth? Of course not. But the younger the better BEFORE that first unwanted pregnancy...AND educating kids on sex and BC does NOT make things worse....

    People will NOT stop having sex because YOU think they should........
     
  10. Ritter

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    Countries will NOT give sex-ed to 4 year olds because YOU think they should.
     
  11. FoxHastings

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    Never said they did or they should. Never gave an age at all.....just before they can get pregnant or get someone pregnant.....
     
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    I do not see how non-sexual beings could benefit from sex-ed. Sex-ed should be for people who have entered puberty only. In other words; only kids who can create a child.
     
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    I agree that condoms should be stressed in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
     
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    Like at 9 or 10 years old.

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    Humans are sexual beings...holding back sex ed until they enter puberty may be too late.....age appropriate sex education is a good thing...
     
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    All that is needed to prevent not only a large number of pregnancies but abortions as well is to teach kids that if they should have unprotected sex how to both get and use Plan B and Morning After Drugs.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I agree but I also contend that no one is obligated to use Plan B, and morning after drugs or any form of BC.....abortion should always be an option, too.
     
  18. Ritter

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    Sounds psychopathic and murderous to me.

    ...But, hey. That's just me.
     
  19. FoxHastings

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    Yup, I agree , it's just you.


    Abortion has been around for about as long as humans have been around and the women who had abortion are neither murderers nor psychopaths...just humans with unwanted pregnancies.
     
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    Biologically speaking there is no such thing as an "unwanted pregnancy". Do you think that concept exists in the animal kingdom? F-k no.

    "Unwanted pregnancies" are solely the result os the sexual revolution which has resulted in promisciousity and irreponsibility. Abortion is not "normal", it is not to be considered "normal" for any spiecies to want to kill their child. However, you are right. Women with unwanted pregnancies are not psycho-killers, they are just victims of the destructive structure we all live under.
     
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    Effectiveness of BC:
    """"FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - September 15, 2011 - Qualitest Pharmaceuticals today issued a voluntary, nationwide, retail-level recall of multiple lots of oral contraceptives. The recall is being implemented because of a packaging error, where select blisters were rotated 180 degrees within the card, reversing the weekly tablet orientation and making the lot number and expiry date no longer visible. This packaging error and the potential for this error to have affected other oral contraceptive products resulted in the company issuing the recall of multiple lots.

    As a result of this packaging error, the daily regimen for these oral contraceptives may be incorrect and could leave women without adequate contraception, and at risk for unintended pregnancy. These packaging defects do not pose any immediate health risks. However, consumers exposed to affected packaging should begin using a non-hormonal form of contraception immediately and consult their health care provider or pharmacist. Pharmacies are being instructed to contact consumers who have received affected product. """""


    This little "error" just happened here in the US.
    Women who became pregnant after using the defective pills are suing , some for the entire cost of raising the kid including college education :) if they give birth.


    Do you think the these women should be FORCED to give birth?
     
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    Not even once have I ever mentioned forcing anyone to give birth. How many times do I have to point out that it is not abortion in itself that I oppose? How many times 'til now have I pointed out that it is the destructive discourse and norms we live under that has to be changed? How many times do I have to repeat that anyone can have as much sex as they wish and with as many partners as possible as long as they take responsibility?

    Yiiiiikes.
     
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    And if they don't "take responsibility" ??? Then what? They are psychopathic murderers?

    If it isn't abortion you oppose but lifestyle HOW do you intend to change the lifestyle of humans......humans have been human since they were human....you cannot change human nature....

    You CANNOT change the FACT that women may get pregnant when they do not want to be.

    YIIIKES What can't you get about that??


    The women who got the bad BC pills were taking "responsibility"..... do you think they should be forced to give birth or be free, as they are in this country, to have an abortion?


    AND, as has been pointed out to you several times...if a woman feels she cannot afford a kid or wants a kid the responsible thing in her mind is to have an abortion. ...and she should have that right to act responsibly...
     
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    They don't want responsibility, they want to have non-consequential sex. Frankly the best way to do that is to hire sterilized prostitutes. How many of them (pro choicers) would vote for legal prostitution?
     

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