Solving this whole issue very easily

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Stadhouder, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    I don't want them to teach that George Washington was the 31st President...ALL lying is wrong. Teachers aren't paid to lie to their students.
     
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    Why do you want what you consider irresponsible people to have children? Do you hate children that much?

    And there's that icky FREEDOM thingy in America...we are FREE to make unhealthy irresponsible choices so that we are free to make good choices...you can't have one without the other.......
     
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    What? Can you explain... millions of abortions mean more unwanted children?????
     
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    It's the attitude that state encouraged abortion produces in the citizenry. It would be like state sponsored McDonalds in every elementary and high school serving grease filled food to our children every day. Yeah you have a right to eat what you want, but why the hell would we have policy that encourages it?
     
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    So now we can't even encourage children to make what we consider the right choice? Can we encourage them not to eat McDonalds? Or is that wrong too, no judgments whatsoever?
     
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    I've yet to meet the person that didn't regret their abortion decision. I'll keep looking hard though.
     
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    Proving is easy peasy. Woman goes to some govt agent, that govt agent then subpoenas the man and forces a DNA test. If the father, 18 years of financial support is ordered based on that. Nothing else matters. The act of sex the man committed, combined with the choice of the woman to birth the child, is enough justification to warrant an 18 year bill.
     
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    I was asked to give a woman a ride to a clinic once. I refused, and I had to salvage our friendship because of my refusal. In the process, I learned about how she felt about that abortion. And she does regret it, I know it.
     
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    LOL! So you were actually telling the truth....ONE example..1....ONE...1...millions of women have abortions but you think they ALL regret them because of ONE...LOL! And the information was second hand so you REALLY have no idea how she felt....!!! LOL!

    Try again...
     
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    I know more. I've yet to meet one who talked about her abortion as a life saving procedure.
     
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    Please read the whole thread. The comment about proving who is the father was about what took place just a few years ago. Anyway the man can still disappear before the DNA test is ordered. So for all the years, centuries of them, that men just disappeared and left women to support children alone, those years that men held all the power, and now you just can't take it that women have control over their own lives.
     
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    I thought you better than to twist my words, perhaps I was mistaken .. there is a vast difference between encouraging people to take a specific option and not giving them any option at all.
     
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    I'm just saying we encourage our children to make healthy choices. I believe that abortion has negative health consequences. I'm pretty sure there is a chance that you can permanently lose the ability to have children if you have an abortion. But on the mental health side, I am certain that abortion has negative psychological effects. I have every right to encourage my child to not get one, and I have every right to not expect government agents to be encouraging them otherwise.
     
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    totally agree

    Then you are free to believe that .. however that does not give you the right to impose that belief onto others

    For a single abortion there is little to no risk of future problems conceiving .. however like in most other surgical procedures there is always a risk of complications. The more times it happens the more risk is involved, exactly the same is true of a completed pregnancy, any procedure that dilates the cervix can weaken it, so a woman who has multiple abortions or multiple births can suffer from something called an incompetent cervix, which is the cervix dilating prematurely.

    There is no risk to the woman's ability to produce ova from an abortion .. in fact the risks are far greater when abortions are illegal.

    sorry, but all unbiased data disagrees with you, abortions has no more psychological effects than giving birth, and of the studies performed it was shown that woman who have had abortion who did have some sort of psychological effect after the fact had PRIOR mental problems - the same was found for pregnancy that went to term.

    Of course you have, no one is even remotely saying you do not.

    Again you can expect this as is your right, but it does not mean you can force your opinion onto others by weight of law .. personally I don't feel that teachers or what ever should be advocating any of the options above each other, their job is to educate and give ALL options without placing their personal views into the equation in order to garner a favorable conclusion.
     
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    Post 264 had the quotes mixed up.
     
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    And neither should the government discourage women from having abortions, because it is a constitutional right. Those who are opposed to government funding of abortions think nothing of the millions or billions spent legislating and litigating unconstitutional TRAP laws. Pro-choicers are also forced to fund "crisis pregnancy centers" which disseminate lies and pro-life propaganda.
     
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    I agree no person should be forced to support CPC's if there is no funding for abortions.
     
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    CPCs get state AND federal funding:

    "Well over half of the states in the country are directly funding “crisis pregnancy centers” (CPCs), right-wing groups that pose as nonpartisan health clinics while advocating for an anti-abortion agenda. According to NARAL Pro-Choice America, 34 states currently have policies that funnel money toward CPCs:"

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