Obamacare signups hit 8 million with late surge of young people

First of all, those numbers are HIGHLY inflated, even many democrat pundits will admit that. Second, adding people onto medicaid rolls is NOT something to be proud of. Third, that is NOT the only downside to buying outside of the exchanges. If you do not purchase one of the "exchange" plans (a plan that fits the qualifications that Fuhrer has mandated) then you can buy your insurance, but you're going to get FINED at the end of the year for it because they don't meet the mandated requirements for Obama.

They're not going to pay their premiums because if they could have afforded those RIDICULOUS premiums to begin with, they would have been paying them. What the hell makes you think they're going to pay them now? They sure as HELL aren't going to pay them once they go to the hospital and attempt to use that (*)(*)(*)(*)ty insurance they purchased. Even the ones who DO pay their deductibles will stop paying once they realize they'll have to pay their ridiculous deductible and then realize that their copay is enormous. They'll start to recognize that the insurance really isn't doing much of (*)(*)(*)(*) for them and they'll stop paying.

Many people go YEARS and YEARS without doing those things. Don't be ridiculous.

Uhhh yes it most certainly is if you don't want to get FINED for not having the appropriate coverage. If you purchase coverage that doesn't mean Mein Fuhrer's qualifications you'll get fined for it. BTW, poor people aren't going to "move up the food-chain of insurance". They can't afford the SUBSIDIZED insurance, much less the unsubsidized.

This is patently false and based on nothing more than conjecture. In fact, it flies in the face of all evidence. There's NOTHING to indicate that people who could not afford insurance before and would not spend money that they needed to pay for insurance before, are all of a sudden, magically going to want to pay $200 every month for crappy insurance. That's ludicrous.

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Lol you have not even BEGUN to see the pain that Obamacare is going to cause.

The REAL problem comes in when people start to have to pay for and then attempt to use that (*)(*)(*)(*)ty insurance that Obama has pushed on them.

That's when you're going to start to see people get really, REALLY pissed off.

 

And yet, you're quoting Obama with straight face? Un-(*)(*)(*)(*)ing-believable.

How can anyone be watching Obama doing victory laps without laughing is beyond me.

How can any law, based on coercion, be a success is also beyond me.

 

Its a fricking lie, as all things Obama are.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/03/17/march-madness-fake-obamacare-enrollment-numbers/

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I love it when Obama voters roll out that Trojan horse.

 

Here's a real-world example of Obamacare in action for a low-income person with a small child, including all the numbers showing before and after costs.
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/16/saved_by_obamacare/

The story goes on to say how her medications were suddenly affordable, and she was able to afford a cancer screening. The screening showed she had pre-cancerous colon polyps, and got it treated. Obamacare may have saved her life.

 

it's the republicans talking point in 2 years. Romney care worked nationally.

 

Well, since most of those enrollees are Californians and only about 5% of the Californians are paying the full bill (non-subsidized), then it is safe to say that we can extrapolate that 5% to your 8 million figure which only comes out to about only 400K.

So, only about 400K of that 8 million are actually paying the ENTIRE bill (non-subsidized).

The other 7.6 million are either fully subsidized or partially subsidized.

That is a fricking disaster and failure.

Covered CA: 60% qualified for Medi-Cal, Only 5% non-Subsidized

 

So, Obama, the proud holder of the Lie of the Year Award, releases numbers from Obama's HHS, the same dept that couldn't design a website or determine who paid and who hadn't. And these numbers magically appear days after Sibelius leaves and a new dept head takes over. Oh, and numbers just happen to come in at exactly the numbers they needed them too. No s**t? Really?

Boy, coupled with the new Census questions that will make comparing the number of uninsured impossible to compare with pre-ocare numbers, the cards are really falling conveniently into place for the DNC come Nov, aren't they? Imagine that?

Fact is, I don't trust one thing coming out of this administration, especially when it involves Obamacare and even more so during an election year when the Senate hangs in the balances.

 

Yet another imaginary number....it would be amusing if it was no so very tragic.

 

How many signed up through the Oregon and Maryland exchanges that WE SPENT $350,000,000.00 to build?

You were in your hole when these topics came up the first time. Please get us current.

 

Stalin was equally successful meeting the goals of every Five Year Plan.

Get with the program (pogrom?), Comrade.

 

Obamacare needs at least more than 45% enrollees between the age of 18 - 34 in order for the exchanges to work and in order to keep premiums from ultimately rising.

Not 28%.

 

Indeed. Few consider the calculus. All the sick in that cohort ARE IN. They are net negatives in the premium pool and might be 5% or so of that 28%. All the women that see childbirth in their future ARE IN. As above.

So they have 28% (maybe). All the net negatives will pay the premium. Some of the net positives will bail out. They'll be tax farming a very small segment and that will become untenable very quickly.

 

Very few people who signed up through the exchanges were previously uninsured. 14% according to the RAND Study. Goldman Sachs projected 75% previously had insurance.

While the numbers differ, the statistics ultimately don't change. Very few people are signing up for insurance for the first time.

 

this is the best you have? Not believing in the annouced numbers? The obamacare enrollment numbers DO NOT include medicaid for starters, but by regurgitating substantiated accusations you and the anti-ACA crowd just keep digging deeper and deeper.

Oh, sorry, I thought a person who didn't have insurance coverage before and now does actually counted as somebody that a person who thru Obamacare is now covered. I must have missed the meeting where the right decided that was bull crap.

have you always had trouble with math?

Your Plan? never heard of it. And despite your ignoring facts, the ACA is making the industry more efficient. Which is why the anti-ACA crowd is left with whinging about numbers of covered as opposed to whinging any substantive inefficiencies caused by its on-going implementation.

If only you and yours had ANY substantive arguments, but its quite evident by the tone, tenor and subjects of the whinging that you don't.

 

I don't think they were ever meant to be predictions as much as rightwing hopes and wishes. Either way, the doom prophets were wrongo!

 

Well, since most of those enrollees are Californians and only about 5% of the Californians are paying the full bill (non-subsidized), then it is safe to say that we can extrapolate that 5% to your 8 million figure which only comes out to about only 400K.

So, only about 400K of that 8 million are actually paying the ENTIRE bill (non-subsidized).

The other 7.6 million are either fully subsidized or partially subsidized.

That is a fricking disaster and failure.

Covered CA: 60% qualified for Medi-Cal, Only 5% non-Subsidized

 

We'll never know.

Especially since the Administration chooses not to enforce his own health care laws.

 

The Obama administration expected to have at least 2.7 million out of 7 million, which would be 40%. Now the administration needs 3.2 million. They are about 1 million short of from their goal.

For whatever reason (the obvious reason), the youth are avoiding the ACA... I don't know what all of the celebration is about to be honest.

 

If the numbers of paid policies were anywhere near the number of sign ups, why would Sebelius be resigning? She should be the one doing victory laps as this would be a huge turn around from the roll out.

 

I can go one even better....as far as real-world life experiences related to Obamacare. Today on the Neil Cavuto show, Neil interviewed a neurologist who specialty is Multiple Sclerosis. Several of his patients had insurance previously that covered his specialty care. Now, they don't. In fact, now they have only one neurologist to choose from that is covered under their plan and he's NOT a specialist in Multiple Sclerosis. They also told him they are now only taking 1 out of the 3 meds they were one for the condition, because it's not covered and they can't afford to pay for it themselves.

Choices are less. And sometimes detrimental. We see these stories almost every day.

 

That's what they hoped, based on youth being 40 percent of the uninsured population. But I don't know of any experts that actually expected that. Romneycare signed up about 28%, and so it's no surprise that Obamacare did, as well.

 

According to the most recent census stats, a little more than half of uninsured are among the youth. According to Kaiser, it's less than half. Depending upon what statistics you want to consider, you've only acquired 15% - 18% of the uninsured youth population. That's not a very good number, considering that you are trying to acquire a very small demographic.

Romneycare wasn't any better for the marketplace. Its hardly the metric to use as a benchmark for success...

 

The White House doesn't admit that, according to their facts; http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/04/17/fact-sheet-affordable-care-act-numbers

 

That figure would be improved if it weren't for the twenty or so Republican governors rejecting Obamacare at no fault to Obamacare.

Reading this link would suggest otherwise; http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/romneycare-facts-and-falsehoods/