Obamacare signups hit 8 million with late surge of young people

The problem is even if what they are saying is true it is meaningless. So what if that many signed up, how many have actually paid? How many of these sign ups are more of a benefit than a liability to the system? It seems that liberals are anxious to celebrate anything that can be made into some kind of success here but it has yet to be seen how this thing will shake out.

 

Came across an interesting Gallup poll. While the headline says Obamacare coverage has improved......it says not as much as the administration is claiming. It says the number of uninsured have decreased to where they were in 2008!!! So......let's see.....we passed a law that is going to cost up upwards of $3 Trillion over the next ten years.....placing hardships on both businesses and individuals....and 5 years later we are back where we were when Obama got into office as far as the number of uninsured?????
Wow. Just wow.

And this from the Gallup poll is quite interesting. Finally, someone is coming forward to tell us what the Obama gang is including in their glowing numbers. Many of us suspected it already....but it's nice to see it by Gallup in writing:

"The White House figure of 7 million-plus insurance exchange sign-ups includes insured people who switched their previous coverage, as well as people who have not paid their first month's premium, and who would therefore still be uninsured.

Also, Gallup is counting just adults, while the administration figures include children as well.

It may take much of the rest of the year to get a true bottom line of the health care law's impact on coverage."

And any bottom line truthful information and details will NOT come from this administration.....you can bet on that. And in between now and the election, we're going to see a lot of this funny business with no actual backup of their claims that anyone can verify.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/07/uninsured-rate-obamacare_n_5102963.html

 

sure it did, that information was brought to you by the same people that said if you like your policy you can keep it

 

Keep propagandizing....that's what fascists regimes do.

You part of Goebbels staff?

 

Taxpayers can subsidize, besides the fed's best busuniss buddies who pay no corporate tax on billions of business done in the USA. The taxpayers can pay loads more so certain health care companies can make somewhat more. Disrupt the free market in health care, which would only increase costs, like they do in the energy, financial, automotive, pretty much every market there is. Further Obama monopolization that defeats the whole purpose of capitalism in the first place.

They'll certainly not use the taxpayer money they'll use to provide weapons and cash for various fascist dictatorships and terrorists.

 

How many have actually paid? That's not such a hard question.

online regulations portal run by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) that says insurers are required to inform the agency of “the full enrollment and payment profile” for consumers on a monthly basis.

Are the Insurance companies NOT complying with that Government Regulation? If NOT what is Sebelius doing to insure compliance? OR could it be the actual numbers are proving to be an embarrassment?

 

LOL The useless and tired talking point of the right, since they failed in getting people to not sign they move the goal posts to some ridiculous and irrelevant question.

 

3.5 million subtracted from eight million is 5.5 million previously insured. 3.5 million out of 47 million actually may be Obama's personal record, the best since the end of Bush days, but how long will this surge last for? Is it even still going on? Because that's not much, and it won't be without cost either. Don't forget, the 47 million uninsured was the main selling point of the entire law. And years later, and he's still got 43.5%, he'd better come across many more signups. Can he?

 

How many people paid is ridiculous and irrelevant?

 

And we still don't know how many are actually insured right now. Remember, "signups" doesnt mean covered. only those who have paid, actually have coverage...and thats the number noones talking about. "Sign ups" without actual numbers as to whos paid, doesn't tell us much at all.

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It gets in the way of the feel good prop-O-ganda, which is keep talking about signups and hope everyone believes that means they have coverage.

 

Lets count the losses for Republicans. Aca, Benghazi, Irs, Fast and Furious. Exactly what are they going to run on in the mid terms. They did nothing to help improve the country. Oh they did start a bunch of conspiracy theories though. I am trying to figure out if they have done anything other than (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and complain i that what they are going to run on???

 

The ACA was only intended to fill in in gaps caused by the old system. It's not meant to cover every American. What's laughable is the belief that the goal was 350 million. (aside from the fact that the USA has only 312 million, not 350).

 

Obamacare HQ should definitely know the statistics and information about all signups and subsequent payments. Their information would need to be carbon copied over to various advertising partners, and every scrap of everything archived in the NSA supercomputer. Obama is sending most everybody down the river with his health care scam, in the end.

 

Sorry Pal, Obama's not fooling at least 61% of the people who says he lies on important issues. You've lost the Senate already, keep trying for a 60% Republican Majority in Congress, I think Democrats can accomplish that.

 

Seems even the gov't can't figure that out. What a program they have.

 

Many of those were because of Medicaid. They could already apply for it.

 

Well dude...its the left that are moving the goal posts not the right. If Ubama came on the tube tommorow and stated another million signed up for Obamacare Im sure you lefties would just take his word for it. Thats a shame. You know how he likes to lie. You lefties have been BRAINWASHED and you know it.

 

Wow look at all the "signups" in California!!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...qualified-medi-cal-only-5-non-subsidized.html

3.3 million now have coverage, thanks Obama! It's a success, sorry Righties.

 

I find all this rather (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slapping to the faces of the Republicans. Much of the claims by Republicans about Obamacare has been proven false. Talk about credibility problems. That distinction is deserving of an A+ grade for the party of the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/17/obama-health-care-sign-ups-hit-8-million/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6_bdEI98fQ

REPUBLICANS, "GROW UP".

 

Murphy's Law would indicate that most are moochers.

 

Obamacare is a SUCCESS. The numbers don't lie. >>>Spam Removed<<<

 

One of the really interesting things here is that... Okay... let's say you're not lying Obama.... and that 8 million people have signed up for insurance.

Where the hell are the rest of them? If they're not on there now, most likely they're not going to be able to get on until the end of the year, so those numbers will start to drop drastically. Because many people will not be able to afford to pay their premiums month in and month out and they will get dropped from their insurance. Since you can no longer add insurance on until we are in an open enrollment period unless you have a qualifying life event... We will have, AT BEST, stagnation in that 8M number for months because the few people who have qualifying life events that are allowed to sign up for healthcare now, will be countered by those people who are not able to pay their premiums every month and dropped from coverage.

So i hope, for his sake, that 8 million isn't all he's got.

 

As noted, the number of people getting insurance is higher than 8 million. 3 million on Medicaid, another 3 million kept on parents' policies, and an unknown number of people who bought insurance outside the exchanges (you can do that, you know. Another way to increase insurer competition. The only downside to buying outside the exchanges is you can't get subsidies. So a lot of people who didn't qualify for subsidies anyway may have gone that route, especially when the exchanges were having technical issues early on).

Why are conservatives so convinced that people simply won't pay their premiums? That flies in the face of any actual evidence. People are required to have car insurance; they don't routinely fail to pay those premiums (yes, there are uninsured drivers, but they are a small minority). So the assumption that a lot of people will drop coverage is flawed at best.

Secondly, qualifying life events come along more often than you might think. Got married, got divorced, new job, new baby... these are not rare things. There will be plenty of opportunities for people to buy insurance through the year.

Third, Obamacare is not the only source of coverage, nor was it never intended to be. As the economy continues to recover more people will become employed (or better employed), and some of them will get employer-sponsored insurance. As people move up the food-chain of insurance (from Medicaid to subsidizes policies to unsubsidized policies to employer-sponsored policies) they remain insured, but cost the goverment less and less. In that scenario, people leaving the exchanges is a good deal for everyone.

As I hope I've demonstrated, this idea has little basis in reality. It starts with two big assumptions, one of which is wrong (life events are rare) and one of which has no evidentiary basis (that scads of people will stop paying premiums).

 

Actually, the overall percentage under 35 is 35%.. which is right on the money as far as what was needed!

14 million total are now enrolled through ACA.

But not for red state governors/legislators who for no other reason but spite, refused Medicaid expansion.. that total coverage number would be 20 million!

Repeal or replace -- (with SQUAT in the way of ideas)? Give it up Congressional Republicans.. ya lost.

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/health...hting-obamacare-as-enrollment-hits-8-million/