Obamacare signups hit 8 million with late surge of young people

Obamacare has now signed up 8 million people.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/...nt-hits-8-million-age-mix-looks-massachusetts

Better yet, 28% of them are young people between the ages of 18-34 -- pretty much exactly what analysts expected, based on historical examples (like Romneycare in Massachusetts).

More importantly, it's what insurers were expecting when they set initial premiums. Which means those premiums won't need to be radically raised next year (for that reason, anyway).

So as the first enrollment period for Obamacare ends, we have the following:

1. Anti-Obamacare predictions have proven completely wrong;

2. Expert predictions have all been borne out, despite technological problems and determined misinformation campaigns by opponents.

Sign up 7 million people by the first deadline? Check.

Last-minute surge of young people to both hit the 7 million mark and get the age-balance to where it needs to be? Check.

What will conservatives do if Obamacare turns out to be a success?

 

You mean Romney Care.

 

I don't think that is something a good many conservatives are worried about...........ObamaCare is an unmitigated disaster no matter how much lipstick liberals try to put on the pig. Seven to eight million people signing up in a country of 350 million is considered a 'success'......its too funny to even contemplate.......and most of those are being subsidized........its really quite laughable.

 

I don't believe it, but the proof will be when we find out how much premiums and deductibles will go up in 2015 and beyond. It's not like we haven't been lied to before.

 

8 million out of an uninsured population of about 40 million is huge.

And that doesn't count the 3 million or so added to Medicaid, and millions more who bought insurance directly from insurers or brokers instead of using hte exchanges.

As for the subsidies, premiums are lower than expected, and so will the subsidies. And the subsidies are not all that generous to begin with. And all those people who don't use the exchanges? They don't get subsidized, so that's pure gravy.

Sorry that so many people getting health coverage -- and helping us slow the growth of health spending -- offends you.

 

Are any of them paying premiums or are they just moochers?

 

Conservatives are already moving the goalposts. First they said nobody would sign up -- and in a particularly twisted effort, even launched campaigns to persuade people not to sign up.
http://politix.topix.com/news/7333-gop-urges-young-people-not-to-get-health-insurance

When it looked like signups would work out, they switched to "how many will actually pay their premiums?"

Now it's moving to "let's see what happens to premiums a year from now".

Could Obamacare still crash and burn? Sure. It's a big complex law. But now the GOP needs to start worrying about it actually succeeding.

 

Hard to say that something that is going to cost us nearly $3 TRILLION over the next 10 years is going to be a success.

I guess the next thing would be to figure out how we're going to pay for it. That generally means increase in Taxes AND an increase in national debt.

 

It doesn't 'offend' me......it just pisses me off that I am paying more for my health insurance and that of my five employees than I was before.......to subsidize the people who can't get their sh1t together and pay for their own stuff.........but, hey, April 15th was just a couple of days ago so I get a constant reminder of the fact that some of us are producers and some of us are moochers.........

 

How many of the people that signed with Obama Care were forced to when the law threw them off the insurance they already had?

 

Relatively few. The overall uninsured rate was falling even before the signup period ended.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/07/uninsured-rate-obamacare_n_5102963.html

 

A: Actually that 8 mil number does count those in medicaid(just as it 'counts' those on "their parents plans".), B: This won't lower any costs at all.

No, really, you had to be stupid, dense or economically ignorant to believe that more people using resources actually would "lower costs". The basic rule of supply/demand kicks in.

Especially medically where not all patients are equal(IE: The terminally ill will require a lot more care, at a lot more cost). And since demand has gone up, there might not be a guarantee(or enough) supplies, causing medical shortages.(Such as what happened in Britain)

Don't you just love them facts?


It isn't a matter of whether Liberal Incompetence(ACA) fails or not. It's a matter of getting a real replacement that actually works.

 

Good question. We STILL don't know how many were uninsured. These may very well be just the ones that had insurance....were kicked off....and had to signup again.

So....when is Obama going to tell us how many of the 45 million are signed up.....you know, the ones he used to claim were uninsured in this country....and that was the reason for obamacare (supposedly)? So, when's he going to tell us that?

IF before Obamacare......85 to 90% of the nation had health insurance.....are we higher than that now; or lower?

He's not giving us figures yet that really mean anything. And I doubt he will.

 

With so much invested by the right in the "Obamacare Disaster" they can't accept any positive news that it might actually be working.

Now we all realize that beating signup figures, and lower than expected premiums in many cases and standard policy clauses and more insurers getting on the bandwagon are nothing more than marxist lies.

Its not about the 8 million that have signed up for medical coverage and it most definitely isn't about the estimated 2 million people who have been denied Medicaid in red states for nothing more than partisan expediency even tho it wouldn't cost those states a dime.

Nope its about ...... what exactly? OH yeah large numbers of phony ads, anecdotal evidence (the rights best kind it seems), unsubstantiated denunciations, doom and gloom predictions of insurance death spirals, and not the slightest hint of an alternative program that would fix the disaster that is actually fixing the disaster.

 

The Uninsured rate was falling.....even before Obamacare came to be. That is something the prez is trying to hide now by redoing the census questions regarding healthcare coverage. The last thing he wants is for the census to show the Uninsured rates were declining BEFORE Obamacare....and after Obamacare....started climbing.

 

Considering how this corrupt administration has lied to the public odds are these numbers are phony. Try again.

 

This "positive" news BTW is coming from the White House. In fact, the headlines in the Wall Street Journal and other outlet actually start out with .....""Obama Says 8 million have enrolled." Key words there is "Obama says...."

 

No, it doesn't.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/obamacare-sign-ups-reach-8-million-20140417

The 8 million total doesn't include people who gained coverage because of Obamacare's Mediciad expansion -- about 3 million so far, according to the Obama administration. Twenty-six states are participating in the Medicaid expansion, and Obama sharply criticized the holdouts during his news conference Thursday, accusing them of acting " for no reason other than political spite."

You haven't spent any time understanding the law, have you?

People without insurance still use health care. They just sometimes went bankrupt trying to pay for it, meaning the rest of us helped bail them out. And they would delay seeking medical care until a problem had progressed far enough to be a problem (and thus more expensive to treat).

More people with insurance lowers average per-person costs. That and other parts of Obamacare help slow the growth of health-care spending, which saves us a lot of money in the long run.

Always have. The point of a group policy is to spread that cost around. Because the person who is young and healthy today could be terminally ill tomorrow.

Okay. Single payer, then?

 

Maybe they'll grow a pair and quit acting like juveniles and start taking care of the people's business. This deep denial they are in is costing the country millions and people need jobs, while they spend all their time drowning in their own grief. And get this, their grieving because of the good fortune of others. Ain't that a hoot.

 

Better we spend the money here than attacking a third world country with no wmd's wouldnt you agree?? So lets just see how far those goal get moved from the party of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and complain

 

They hit 8 million "in cart" I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that Obama is still claiming they are unable to discern how many have paid or what the ages of those who have paid are.

 

They don't want to.

 

Am I supposed to take your word, the word of the Huffington Post and the liars in the White House for that (the same people that brought you the political lie of 2013 to sell Obama Care)?

You do know 4.7 million people lost their coverage due to Obama Care? Right?

 

Thank you for substantiating this :

Now we all realize that beating signup figures, and lower than expected premiums in many cases and standard policy clauses and more insurers getting on the bandwagon are nothing more than marxist lies.


how utterly predictable.

 

So Raytri----you seem to have the inside with the White House. So, can you share with us some specific facts that we need to Know? Namely.....

1) At least 85-90% of the nation had health insurance before Obamacare. What's that percentage now?

2) I could be mistaken....but if memory serves, the only way Obamcare could ever work as planned is if 40 million young and healthy people enrolled and were paying premiums. Do you know what that figure is today?

3) When they use the word "enrolled" do they mean also started paying premiums? Or are the simply counting those they encouraged to go the site and check the box that said they would not be penalized when they came back later to decide?