Obamacare signups hit 8 million with late surge of young people

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why isn't the GOP disputing the numbers, then ?
     
  2. CowboyBob

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    Prove your statement.

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    Q: How long are the right wingers going to keep beating that dead horse?

    A: Forever because it's all they've got.
     
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    So you are saying the experts were right, and the propagandists were just lying to fool the people who were completely ignorant on the topic.


    Amazing....because a lot of the people they fooled, who were convinced that hardly anyone would sign up, are now convinced that no one will pay

    Do you think the experts will be right again?
     
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    Uhhh they are... they're pointing out that not even remotely close of all of these people have paid their premiums. They're also claiming that many of these numbers include medicaid signups.

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    Until you folks can answer this question.

    If he and his ENTIRE administration WILLFULLY and PURPOSEFULLY lied to us about keeping our doctor and our insurance.... can you give me one good reason why we should believe him when he talks about the number of people who have signed up to the program that he FORCED onto the populous and that he is now desperately trying to defend?
     
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    Because they can't. That's why they repeat silly slogans to divert the attention to another topic.
     
  6. bwk

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    If you had bothered to listen to the presidents announcement, he never said anything about those paying their premiums. He said those were the numbers who signed up. Again, you cannot dispute the "SIGNUP " numbers. If you could you would have already posted that here.
     
  7. ShadowX

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    Oh well sure yeah okay... signup numbers. Fantastic. You can get anybody to sign up for anything when they think it's free or close to it. Let's see how many of them pay their premiums lol Let's wait to see how many of them pay their premiums after they try to use that (*)(*)(*)(*)ty insurance LoL

    Oh BTW did you know that those numbers included the number of children signed up under their parents plans as well?
     
  8. bwk

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    If the fact that the govt. was covering up for Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and the IRS was in fact a fact, we wouldn't be talking any longer about these so called scandals. You just told a big fat one, because there are no facts.
     
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    Glad you admitted you took what he said and twisted the whole meaning. Isn't that what most of these conversations are about? Twisting, then having someone like me come behind someone like you and correct the twisting. This is a chronic every day problem folks on the right have. Anyway, thanks for admitting your error. Yea, you're right. We will have to wait to see how many pay their premiums. But it is unfair to use that ammunition to make your own case, when you do not have that ammunition yet.
     
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    No this conversation is about being dishonest. The president and his administration are being dishonest. Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) cares if 300 million people signup for Obamacare if only 1,000,000 of them pay their premiums? What (*)(*)(*)(*)ing good does that do?

    But Obama is presenting these statistics as if they're somehow relevant to the conversation at hand. Nobody cares how many people sign up. What's important is who signed up and paid for their premiums, who uses their insurance and then CONTINUES to pay their premiums. Those are the only things that matter. Signups in and of themselves mean absolutely nothing.

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing A... I'll say he's had 50,000,000 signups!!! Sweet.... who the (*)(*)(*)(*) cares?
     
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    Went to my doctor for the annual check-up yesterday.......asked for his thoughts on ObamaCare.........he just shook his head and laughed.......said almost all of his patient's premiums have skyrocketed. I had to cancel my group insurance policy for myself and employees because it shot up about 35%.......my premiums alone would have been almost $30,000 a year. All my employees have had to go out and get individual plans and we pay them the cost as a salary now. For thirty years I had provided my employees with a group health insurance plan........but no more......thanks Obama.....from the bottom of my heart.
     
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    It was a pretty significant lie.......don't you think? Health insurance is a pretty important issue in most producing people's lives..........don't you think it's pretty sad and telling that the President would lie to 320 million people about it?
     
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    Proof please where is your proof>> That seems to be the one thing righties lack these days.
     
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    "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it."
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    It doesn't do any good. Except for one thing; in the meantime, your analogy of wishing in one hand and pouring out (*)(*)(*)(*) in the other is all you have for the moment, because you have no idea what those figures will be. You're trying to live out your fantasy in real time today, while it is still just a fantasy for you.

    So, there is no dishonesty in what Obama has said. There are 8 million sign ups and thanks to the twisted messages coming from the right, there's always something to clear up, which only strengthens the integrity of what Obama is selling. The more noise and lies coming from the right, the stronger the other side gets. The right should have learned that a long time. Lies, distortions, twisted information, all eventually catch up to those who use that tactic.


    You're pissed off that people who couldn't have affordable health care, have it now. I'd say you care.
     
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    That's it. The ACA is a success and they can't deal with it.

    But can you now?

    I don't have time now to debunk your other complaints but hope to at a later time.
     
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    Please do while continuing to make an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) of yourself.
     
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    You will November 4th.
     
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    Okay then crow about it all you want lol


    You keep thinking that. I have failed to find one of these plans that are "affordable". Maybe you can point me to one.
     
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    It was already proven we sold guns to Drug dealers that led to our own people being shot. The fact that the govt itself wasn't outraged, only proves how corrupt the people involved are. People taking the 5th about Benghazi and the ACA is PROOF POSITIVE there is a problem. If there was no problem, why did the govt LIE about it? We knew the embassy was in danger. There are documents PROVING it. Help was denied. People died. YOU don't care. The fact that the govt itself wasn't outraged only proves how corrupt the people involved are. The fact our own govt is preventing themselves from being prosecuted is PROOF there is corruption. Shall I go on? Nah, because you simply don't care and your apathy is proof enough of where the country is headed. Like I said, be happy now. Continue cheerleading for people that are SCREWING you. When we turn into Mexico or any other country south of us, we'll see how happy you are then. Continue with your head in the sand ostrich.
     
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    The scumbag lied to YOU TOO. You think that's the only ones? Could anyone be so foolish?
     
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    Having millions kicked off their insurance plan, forcing them to buy one of yours or fine them, 40 million people without insurance, and you get 8 million people to sign up, but only 15% are PAYING, and that's working?
     
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    The ACA is like the government breaking your car windows, then offering to fix them at an increased price, but if you dont get your windows fixed, you'll have to pay a fine.

    Oh and by the way, everyone who cant afford to have their windows fixed (roughly 85%), you have to pay to fix their windows too.

    Success!
     
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    Like I said before, when you have facts on the table instead of accusations an lies, let us know will you? Your comments you make are laughable. "The fact that the govt. itself wasn't outraged, only proves how corrupt the people involved are". Lol! That's brilliant! Walk into a court of law with that quote and they will laugh in your face. To accuse someone of being outraged or not cannot be used in a courtroom to make a case. You're being ridiculous. That is prime example why these manufactured scandals never supersede anything other than accusations. Other comments like, "why did the govt. lie about it" go no where because the accusation is never followed up by proof there was in fact a lie. That is where the right runs into problems with their stories. And that is why these scandals always hit a dead end. Their own lies cause them to fizzle out. All this selective outrage, drama, and conspiracy theories have to be accompanied with a certain amount of truth on your end. Unfortunately for the right, they never are.
     
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    Your question is ridiculous. They just signed up. How do you know only 15% are paying when they probably haven't even got their premium notice yet? Lol!
     

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