What sin has God condemned you for?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Yet some walked with God, as scriptures say, before any blood atonement and to think God would forget all the millions who died before Jesus did shows again how poor your theology and thinking is.

    When you have to lie as you do to maintain a theology, it shows how poor it is.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Why though? What's the point?

    So you're telling me that God the omniscient, the omnipotent, the omnipresent is incapable of changing something he created to begin with without first receiving a blood sacrifice...from himself? :neutral:
     
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    There you go then.
     
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    Yes! The "Bible" states that Noah and Enoch walked with God. Have you ever heard the term 'euphemism'? The people could not say that either had become "dead", because no-one saw their dead bodies. You would not want the authors to report a lie would you by saying that they had died? Also note in the scripture concerning Noah, that the author viewed Noah as 'perfect in his generations' and used that opinion to assist in his explanation of what happened to Noah. Do you have a better and more valid explanation?
     
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    I'm just saying that Jesus founded the Catholic Church, and all the other religions are just Satan's way of keeping people away from it, so those people go to hell, for rejecting Jesus....

    If there was God, that's exactly what he'd do....
     
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    Jesus could have backed out at any time. He gave himself freely to
    do the will of the Father.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    It's what God wanted.
    No. That's the way he decided to do it.
     
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    Himself? Now you are suggesting that you know God so well that you actually know that He has a 'self'. And then you add to the dilemma by using the Christian reference of "Him" Do you KNOW that God is a 'him'? If you don't know the gender (if there is one), then why don't you use "itself"? Not thinking logically are you? As for the blood sacrifice, I was under the impression and understanding that the blood sacrifice was from the body of a man called Jesus? Correct me if I am wrong.
     
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    WHY did the god want it? for what purpose? how does an act of violence 'help' anyone or any thing?

    please explain the mechanics behind sacrificing yourself to yourself, in detail. thanks.

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    what is this dogma I adhere to, please?
     
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    And that seems perfectly logical to you? :neutral:
     
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    You are mistaken. Your interpretations are not in the 'Bible'.
     
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    What is more hilarious is when the filler and spin doctoring is refuted as I did with the posting of Tecoyahs in my previous post.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    It is perfectly logical. Nothing seeming about it.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    How did you come to this conclusion? What facts do you have to support it? I am interested in the process you followed to come to your final conclusion on this.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sticking out your tongue and saying nya nya no it's not......is not refutation.

    Unless you have a different bible than I did (quite possible as there are many versions)....those things are indeed within it.
     
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    The fact that during that period of 1,500 or so years there are 66+ books
    and documents of writings by some 40 or more authors, many didn't know
    the other, and have the same single storyline without changing it. And to
    top it all off they don't contradict the other. No other book or groups of
    books can claim that.

    I find that to be quite compelling evidence.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    lol.....or it could just be plagiarism.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    What's your evidence for that?
     
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    Then provide a link to that reference source you have selected.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Take any other group of books .... say a group of books which all claim lizard people came from the horsehead nebula and planted human seeds in the dirt, and will be back soon to harvest their crop (they're very hungry). What's more likely - plagiarism? or lizard people making themselves invisible and infiltrating the minds of the various authors?
     
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    No thanks....you would simply state it is not "Irrefutable" and that it does not convince YOUR mind.
     
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    Sexual promiscuity appears to be the sin the muslims accuse the West of, in general.

    That we raise half the kids as fatherless bastards in America who suffer Child Abuse and then perform 70% of all violent crime certifies the sin hurts others, indeed.
     
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    Jesus was risen from the dead~ by two "angels, Moses and Elijah.
    Jesus is Truth and the son of Reality, not his own father
    Communion~ symbolic message to the Rabbi about what to do with the 5th cup of seder wine.
    Prayer~ attempt to speak with our own Unconscious mind in a personal relationship.
    Eve~ the essence of our psychic femininity called the Anima
    Satan~ the essence of our psychic masculinity, called the Libido
    Tree of knowledge~ i.e.; "of good and evil"... which represents the Self inside us.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see....so you get to rewrite the Bible(s) to your own liking and ignore what was written "By God"?


    Cool, can I play as well:


    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was skating on his board over the waters.


    3 And God said, “Let there be Ganja,” and there was a buss. 4 God saw that the weed was good, and he separated the buds from the stems and seeds. 5 God called the weed “skunk,” and the seeds he called “crap.” And there was fun, and there was munchies—the first day.

    6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

    9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

    11 Then God said, “Let the land produce marijuana: seed-bearing weed and sensemilla on the land that bear buds with no seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning and getting high—the third day.

    14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night and make me trip out, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness and see boobies more clearly. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

    20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God decided the boobies needed something to be attached to, so he created a Hot and sensual thing he named Judith. And God saw that it was wicked good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning wood—the fifth day.

    24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

    26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” But God didn't want mankind toying with Judith's goodies, God saw this would not be good.



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    So God created mankind in his own image,
    in the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.
    Saving the bestest female for himself.


    28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” Just stay away from my (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

    29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

    31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
    32 On the seventh day.....God and Judith got totally stoned and screwed like bunnys. And it was extremely good.
     
  25. Incorporeal

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    Admittedly there is that possibility.... however, your presumption shows that you are attempting to be a mind reader. .... that you KNOW what I will do. Are you a soothsayer?
     

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