Officer Wilson recounts struggle with Brown

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I saw a picture the other day but the one that shows up on the internet now as a hoax is definitively not the officer and not the picture that I saw so I may be wrong and thought it was something else.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes he was a suspect and Wilson got the radio call during the initial stop and saw the cigars in his hand.

    Yeah who both the Washington Post and New York Times vetted.

    And when the grand jury comes back with a no bill you will accept it?
     
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Have you not even read the reports that have been leaked, they cover everything you bring up. He had no pepper spray and using it in the car would have been just as bad on him as on Brown. His baton was in his belt but behind him and how do you swing a baton at someone outside your car leaning in with any force and your only target is his arms, and he could not get to his taser which would have been of little use in that situation and he could have just as easily tased himself.
     
  4. superbadbrutha

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    If Officer Wilson was inside the car and Michael was outside the car how would it be possible for him to take his gun which was also on his right side in a holster.
     
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    Again you are making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. Fact the dispatch about the robbery had already gone out with a description of your favorite witness.
     
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  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. OTOH, we're not going to give police the responsibility for public service and the tools then deny their use when it's politically incorrect or simply politically unpopular. Part of the problem is that the President and AG of the USA became personally involved the case. Do you doubt justice will be done and, when it is, will you live by it?
     
  8. superbadbrutha

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    They had to become a part of it because it was a freakin national story.
     
  9. peoshi

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    Look at the guy fighting back after being tased, or do you think that is fake too?

    What do you want to chat about?
     
  10. superbadbrutha

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    So that means it doesn't work on anyone, right?
     
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    It didn't work on that guy, did it?
     
  12. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disagreed. If President Bush had become personally involved in a local case for political reasons, or any reasons for that matter, the Left would have collectively shat a brick.
     
  13. Otiumdignitate

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    No one here in this thread was there or "knows" what happened. I stipulated to my conjecture at the outset.

    What I do know, however, is that the PC -obsessed media, and race exploitation industry was in full "blame the cop for a racist unjustified shooting" mode with out any basis in fact.

    I am simply trying to show you a different perspective than the one you have embraced.


    I spent some midnight police shifts in a black inner city ghetto of a large city. You?
     
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    Dangerous sociopath.
     
  15. YouLie

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    I stand corrected. I thought he didn't know about the strong armed robbery.

    I will be perfectly ok if he's exonerated. I like cops and support them. But I don't want them using excessive force.
     
  16. YouLie

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    I'm a card carrying member of the vast right wing conspiracy and original Tea Party. I love cops and support them. I also love the Constitution and the rule of law. Cops make mistakes. We've agreed the best thing is to be open minded and await the evidence and the justice system to work. I think Wilson will get a fair shake in MO, but the feds won't let up. They'll find out he used the "N" word in sixth grade or something.
     
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    What does an officer do when the level of force being applied isn't working? He escalates to the next appropriate level of force. I'm not trying to say all non-lethal tools work all of the time. That's far from accurate. What I am saying is that officers are trained in the use of force continuum and use of their non-lethal tools so that people don't unnecessarily get killed. Agree?
     
  18. Max Rockatansky

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    When have they done that before and what if they did it now? What are they going to do?
     
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    The rhetorical point I was trying to make is that the feds are trying to establish that Wilson is a racist so they have ammo in court when they try to prosecute him for violating Brown's civil rights. That is why they're there.
     
  20. Max Rockatansky

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    I know that's the RW meme and that's also what the LWs will even cry about, but the court system is intentionally intended to be apolitical. Please name an example or two of this actually happening.

    The closest I can think of was Zimmerman. He wasn't even going to be charged then, due to political pressure, he was overcharged and then acquitted. There was some yammering from the Left about civil rights, but that didn't stick for the same reasons this won't stick if it turned out as you assert.
     
  21. Hoosier8

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    Well, boys and girls, here is what will probably happen.

    So far information has leaked supporting the officers story. The reason it leaked is because actual physical evidence does not support charging the officer with anything. This is being done in advance to prepare people for what will come.

    Now, the only thing you can count on is whatever the Grand Jury or the FBI will do. The Feds will not prosecute this case. You can't trust the 'eye witnesses' cause they suck. Co-offenders have an agenda. Family members have a bigger agenda. The baiters like Jesse and Sharpton may get someone killed. The radicals, the left, and the race baiters will never accept scientific evidence. So.....

    Expect some more leaks and then maybe an announcement after it starts snowing. Mob violence kind of evaporates around then.
     
  22. superbadbrutha

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    He had no need to because anytime someone black kills or is thought to have killed someone white they are immediately arrested and prosecuted.

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    I have never embraced anything, from the beginning I have said let the investigation take its course and then we will know what happened.

    So that makes you an expert on black folks who live in a inner city.

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    The Ferguson police chief says officer Darren Wilson didn't know 18-year-old Michael Brown was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting.
    http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage...271430331.html
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    Are you claiming it would be impossible?

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    He ha since corrected himself, he was talking about the initial encounte, the radio call came after that.

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    And you are saying it does, right?
     
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    "(Saint Louis Dispatch) The officer who shot Ferguson teen Michael Brown stopped Brown and another teen because they were walking in the street, not because of a robbery a few minutes earlier, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said Friday afternoon.

    Jackson said the officer was aware cigars had been taken in the robbery of a store nearby, but did not know when he encountered Brown and Dorian Johnson that they might be suspects. He stopped them because they were walking in the street, Jackson said.

    But Jackson told the Post-Dispatch that the officer, Darren Wilson, saw cigars in Brown’s hand and realized he might be the robber."
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com...in-his-hands-prior-to-attempting-questioning/
     
  25. Max Rockatansky

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    Remember when you asked for evidence of making racist statements? ^^ There's one.
     

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