Officer Wilson recounts struggle with Brown

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  1. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    That was his Bong Hand?, who knew.....LOL

    Hey, we debate, that's what we do here. We do not sit around and wait for a jury, we debate it. ,it's what I get paid the big bucks for......LOTS!
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    We have seen in the past wearing a badge doesn't mean you are above the law. Fact. What was the reason his hand was by that gun? Nobody has never said there wasn't a struggle. Common sense says just because your a cop doesn't make you above the law.

    No common sense is not what got Zimmerman off.

    Correct.



    Most folks do respect authority and I hope I would never be fighting a cop either. I am pretty sure Amadou Diallo didn't think he would be gunned down by cops, pretty sure Abner Louima didn't think he would be assaulted by cops.

    Amadou Diallo and Abner Louima probably had respect for the cops also.





    Was Officer Wilson given a drug test?


    Its probably not good.






    Let alone if I didn't have any kind of weapon.

    Sometimes.

    Anything is possible.
     
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    Thank you for an interesting, honest and respectful debate super,,,always a pleasure

    As sad as it would be, I hope they did missread each other, for everybody's sake...
     
  4. Max Rockatansky

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    It's pretty obvious to everyone who isn't a racist that your comment was biased racially, ergo racist.

     
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    Because he has clearly turned over a new leaf in life as evidenced by his refusal to take part in the strong armed robbery, which is a very unexpected but pleasant surprise. And what he said was MB was shot AT while trying to get away, do you understand the difference? Plus his story is backed up by several witnesses, and the forensic evidence is consistent with his story
     
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    No, evidence that showed Martin was on top of him preventing his escape while attacking is what got Zimmerman off. Physically attacking someone can and does have serious and at times deadly consequences, Michael and Treyvon found that out the hard way.
     
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    This brings us back to why we have these protests in the first place
     
  8. Max Rockatansky

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    No. If he did, then Brown might be on the floor of the convenience store video instead of strong-arming his robbery out of there.

    Agreed, yet your own posts assert racism for anything in which you disagree.

    Or the OJ trial. You continually to assert racism to a system that grants strong rights to the accused, yet you do little to support such a system. Your claim that every American owes you something is an example of this bias.
     
  9. superbadbrutha

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    Well if the store owner would have dropped at least we would have known exactly what happened and he would have deserved it.

    Yea that's what it is.

    So you are on record saying that the Judicial System in this country hasn't been and isn't racist today.

    My claim is that America owes her black citizens for years of transgressions that she has never paid black folks restitution for. I bet you sat idly by and didn't say a word when Reagan paid Japanese Americans reparations for being locked in concentration camps for about 4yrs.

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    Please show me the evidence that proves Trayvon attacked Zimmerman and not the other way around.
     
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    Is the recounted story the one that was manufactured by Wilson and his buddies.

    The whole scenario is not credible. Wilson claims he was about to perform an arrest on 2 miscreants. Why did he not call for back-up.

    The Wilson story has the smell of suspicion.

    It appears evident that Brown was executed on the principle of dead men don't talk.
     
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    You can scour the Internet for pro/con analysis on the use of all non-lethal tools. You'll find both pro and con. You'll find scenarios in which one tool worked and another didn't. No less than lethal tool works 100% of the time. But the fact is cops still carry them so they don't have to shoot everyone with stupid enough or crazy enough to attack a police officer.

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    Why can't it just be a simple case of a cop getting his bell rung and goes for his gun to keep it from happening again? Overracting is not necessarily acting with malice.
     
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    Thanks for admitting you feel every American citizen owes you money.
     
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    Nice to see you jumping to conclusions and spreading false information. Determining the credibility of posters on Internet forums is difficult, but it becomes easier when they spout nonsense which is so easily proven incorrect.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...rown-case-offers-three-explosive-revelations/
    Wilson had just completed an unrelated call when he spotted Brown and his friend Dorian Johnson walking in the middle of a public street. Wilson quickly ordered them to move to the sidewalk, the source said, before recognizing Johnson’s clothing matched a recent radio alert about a nearby robbery.

    Wilson called for backup before driving his vehicle to confront the two, the source told the Post-Dispatch. After placing the SUV in park, Wilson said he tried to exit the vehicle, the source said. That’s when he contends Brown suddenly slammed the door shut and punched him in his face through the open window, according to the source.


    The investigation into the matter will prove whether or not Officer Wilson did, indeed, call for back up before confronting the suspects.
     
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    Cops don't have a licence to kill to satisfy their own bloodlust. Next they'll be carving notches on their gun handles.
     
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    No doubt more evidence will be manufactured if needed. I still contend it was an execution.
     
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    Wow so now you claim Zimmerman was beaten to within an inch of his life, quite a change from you previous contentions.

    Butbthen you don't have to be beaten at all to justify use of deadly force do you?


    A policeman, I wouldn't be struggling with one trying to arrest me in the first place.

    So if a policeman is trying to arrest you you are going to struggle with them? You are going to beat him?
     
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    They certainly are going tobstruggle to prevent it as was the case here and he was successful in preventing Brown from doing so but as you admit it would not be impossible.

    They didn't they were clarified.


    Why do they still carry guns then?

    Lack of response noted
     
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    He lleft with Brown with stolen merchandise so no new leaf and again we know he pled guilty to giving false statements in his recent past.

    He said he was shot and then turned around.
    The witnesses that went to the press with conflicting stories and embellishments? Or the reported witness whose official statements to police and testimony supports Wilson?
     
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    Which would include Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. since they are Americans also. I find it funny that folks like you don't have a problem with other citizens being paid restitution for the injustices that were done to them, but when it comes to black folks your mindset changes.
     
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    No my contention has always been he wasn't hurt at all.

    That doesn't apply to a young black teenager being chased by a grown man with a gun at night.


    I would hope he wouldn't be trying to arrest me for Jaywalking.
     
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    How do you know that Brown wasn't trying to prevent him from shooting him. Also other than Officer Wilson's statement how do you know that Brown was trying to take his firearm?


    If you change a fact that means it wasn't one to begin with.


    Because they are effective, with that said if the Taser is not effective why are they carrying it?

    You seem to have all the facts that know one else seems to know, have you been sitting in on the Grand Jury proceedings?
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    Well you just said
    "We saw all the pictures of Zimmerman who was beaten within an inch of his life but only had two scratches to show for it."

    So the pictures of the injuries were faked?

    Sure if the teenager hasn't confronted the grown man and then assaulted him without cause and has a reason to believe they are in imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death.

    I didn't ask what you hoped, try again

    So if a policeman is trying to arrest you you are going to struggle with them? You are going to beat him?
     
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    You have evidence otherwise?

    Nothing was changed it was clarified. As the chief stated the initial encounter was about them obstructing traffic. That changed during the stop as the chief clarified.

    Guns that is, but if the others are always effective why the need for a gun?

    I have the facts as being reported, you have conjecture.
     
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    Some folks just don't know sarcasm when they see it. My point was folks like you trying claim that this dude was so brutally beaten and all the pictures show are two scratches on the back of his head which didn't even require a Band-Aid.


    Lets see I am walking down the street at night minding my own business, all of a sudden a man whom I don't know slows down his vehicle and starts staring and following me. I take off running he jumps out of his vehicle in pursuit of me and has a loaded weapon is there any other type of imminent danger I could face?

    If he is trying to arrest me, no. If he is trying to inflict bodily harm against me, yes.
     

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