Part 28 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

I provided your quotes demonstrating this... but by all means continue to ignore them if it pleases you

The games are all yours, and you think your winning because you don't pay attention... but by all means continue of if it pleases you

The time I'm spending is what has become a feeble attempt to liberate you from your ignorance; but you seem determined to cling to your antiquated and entrenched dogma... so by all means continue if it pleases you

Men created god, then men wrote the bible in an attempt to support their assumed qualities and traits attributed to that god... and it's obvious by now the only thing you are capable of changing is your mind concerning whether the old testament is or isn't important to your version/denomination of christianity... and if this inconsistency floats your boat then by all means continue if it pleases you

You have clearly demonstrated that the old adage is still alive and being implemented in various forms today...

 

Even if he told someone, which by the verse he did not, one needs to make that part up, how would the people in South and North america know, asia, austraillia? How were they to get the word?

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Nor is it required.

 

Antiochus put a statue of Zeus in the Temple.. that was the abomination of desolation.

 

Just remember that certain things have to happen before Jesus returns.

Sodom has to be rebuilt in all of its former glory.

Egypt has to be devoid of people for forty years.

All life in the Israel area has to be destroyed.

It's somewhat unclear as to the sequence but when Egypt becomes empty of people you can start the clock. Until then eat, drink, and be merry.

 

Even if their power wasn't limited to Jerusalem, they still wouldn't have been able to stop the spread of Christianity. We are talking about the Creator God here getting His message of salvation out to be heard/known by the masses.

Obviously it was because of the power of the Holy Spirit at work. No way was Almighty God the Creator of everything that exists in the universe was going to be denied in getting His message of salvation out, the Good News to the world through the work of His only begotten Son our Dear Lord Savior Jesus Christ!

 

Are you implying that a carpenter/plumber could do work in the electronics field and be fully functional without any kind of schooling or training?

Why in the world would you think that? I suppose it's because you're being illogical here.

Wow! Imagine tomorrow everyone changing their jobs to a job they have never done before...lol

The whole world will cease in functioning properly...lol, there will be total chaos everywhere.

 

I was right. You are blind.

And Jesus said, 'Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him "The Master saith, my time is at hand: I will keep the Passover at thy house with my disciples.' Matthew, Mark and Luke have similar words. Note Passover

And as most of Christianity accepts (except you of course) that the OT sacrifices foreshadow the coming of Jesus and the ultimate sacrifice, that the prophecies foretell the coming of Jesus, it seems the two Testaments are linked.

A good wriggle on your part, but it doesn't work.

By the way, which disciple was not a Jew?

 

Since when did the OT become not a part of Christianity ?

The OT contains many stories about the actions of Jesus does it not ?

 

The reason WanRen is "ignorant" - in the rude sense of the word - is not because of his lack of English comprehension but because he continually puts words into the mouth of those he debates with.

Like a child, if he is accused of something, something he has actually done .... he defends himself by claiming his accuser has done what he is being accused of.

He does this over and over in order to avoid being responsible for his own words.

 

Weird, isn't it? I have never seen anything like it.

 

You probably do not realize this but in the original story Eusebius wrote detailing the events of the battle of the Milvian Bridge there was no vision of a cross. That version was a later addition.

What is also true is in the arch commemorating that battle there are no Christian symbols but plenty of Pagan symbols relating to Mithra and so on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_kfP96O4N0#t=1922

It was common for writers of history at that time, and throughout history, to try and incorporate stories that would make history conform to some prophecy in the past in order to validate their religious belief or the authority of some leader.

 

All part of the circle of denial It is common for folks in cults, those that have been subjected to intentional and sophisticated mind control techniques, to go to tremendous lengths do deny the obvious, the truth, and reality.

One of the great masters of such techniques, Sun Myung Moon, was of Korean dissent.

A fair number of fundamentalist based Christian Churches use some of these techniques (mind control lite - if you will). Some get more intense.

I have seen similar, and you can find all kinds of accounts of similar behaviour on the web - Steve Hassan delves deeply into the topic.

 

Cults also separate their members from everyone else.

 

Your lack of evidence and knowledge speaks volumes of your unbelief.

Maybe you should try discussing something you know about.

 

You've provided no evidence whatsoever. You've made it clear that you don't
understand the difference between Judaism and Christianity. You've made it
clear that you don't understand that Christians aren't under the law.

You need to stop playing these games and start paying attention.

You're the one entrenched in ignorance and dogma. Your belittling and demeaning
attitude will liberate nobody from the truth.

This your invalidated opinion. Why you keep trying to argue a topic you know
nothing about is quite amazing. Most people understand their limits.

 

Noah was a preacher of righteousness. Preachers don't sit on their haunches
they preach.

It really doesn't matter since they would listen, if there were people living
there.

The abomination of desolation if definitely required.

 

No it wasn't. That took place long before Jesus.

 

There is NO mention of Noah being a preacher in the OT... Not until this:

"God ... did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly" (2 Peter 2:4-5)

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Exactly..............

 

Yes, it was the Passover. Now pay close attention. This was Jesus' last supper.
It has nothing to do with the Lord's Supper. The Passover is Jewish. The Lord's
Supper Christian and has nothing to do with the Passover.

Nice wiggle on your part now that you're starting to agree with me. Foreshadow
and similarities are a far cry from doctrine, which you have yet to produce.
I've also stated that the OT is important. You, for some reason, refuse to see that.
Who's blind?

I was thinking of Luke, who wasn't a disciple. I was incorrect and admit it.

By the way, where in John 10 does Jesus tell the disciples to stay away from
the Gentiles? You didn't answer that.

Topics in John 10
He's the good shepherd.
He's the only way to the Father.
My sheep hear my voice. Those Jews were his sheep.
I and the Father are One - the Jews pick up stones for because He said He was God.

 

No, Mr. Terrifle Reading Comprehension, I was saying logic is useful regardless of what profession you are.

 

I couldn't find what I was replying to but some, if not most, naysayers, try to make
Judaism and Christianity as one. The Old Testament is history and prophecy and
there are no doctrines Christianity hold to the the Jews did.

 

The Old Testament has prophecies for the coming of Elijah, not Jesus.

 

Don't blame me for your issue of not thoroughly explaining yourself. Next time say explicitly, "Logic is useful regardless of what profession you are"....which of course is a true statement but that should be known by everyone...well maybe not everyone, I mean there are people who have absolutely no common sense whatsoever.