If you don't want a baby, get your tubes tied.

You don't pay, as has been pointed out numerous times.

Who is we? My advice to you would be to stick to your marriage vows and then YOU don't have to worry about it. Like I said, a lot of these women who are getting abortions have other issues, such as emotional/mental instability, drug addiction, homelessness, etc. Some are also married women who just cannot afford the costs associated with pregnancy/delivery/another child. Really, it's not any of YOUR business, especially if you are "happily married" as you stated earlier.

 

I have said it before, and maybe you just didn't read it back then, in cases of rape and incest, I cannot argue, regardless of my personal beliefs. I would not hinder or try to dissuade. That being said, we do pay as taxpayers. Any edict coming from DC that requires people to by insurance that has "Women's Healthcare/abortion requirements is the same as taxing me for services I do not use. Before ACA, my insurance didn't have to offer me Women's healthcare with abortion as part of it. Now it is the law, an unfunded mandate from DC. It is a tax, no make no mistake about it. Planned parenthood, which gets 97% of its funding comes from federal tax dollars also uses those dollars for abortions (morning after pills)
See, some folks only care about their feelings when they don't have to pay the consequences for their actions. Those are the ones that need it the least.
I want an abortion because I don't want to be fat. Vanity, not health
I want an abortion because I knew the daddy was a deadbeat not health
I want an abortion because a baby would be damned inconvenient not health
rape health
incest health
mother's and child's health in jeopardy health.
IMO, anything else negates personal responsibility and encourages a disregard for consequences.

 

No, you are wrong. Obama care does not cover abortion except in cases of rape, incest or mother's health, and Planned Parenthood is not allowed to use federal funding for abortions UNLESS one of those 3 conditions are met.

http://www.factcheck.org/tag/planned-parenthood/

Q: How much of Planned Parenthood’s services are dedicated to abortions? Does the federal government fund those procedures?

A: Abortions represent 3 percent of total services provided by Planned Parenthood, and roughly 10 percent of its clients received an abortion. The group does receive federal funding, but the money cannot be used for abortions by law.

And again, it's not your business why a woman gets an abortion. That is her decision to make, not yours. Perhaps when you have an orgasm, you should be forced to orgasm inside the woman. After all, we wouldn't want to kill all of those little spermies, now would we? One or more of them could be a baby.

 

out of all the mis-managed federal agencies receiving federal tax dollars, this is the only one that operates above board?
that's totally asinine..................
You obviously have failed to realize that mandating we each carry the new and improved health insurance, which covers abortions, is ordered to be paid for out of our insurance policies, thanks to ACA, All of America is forced to pay for abortions for irresponsible people.

 

dude, my current insurance policy says I'm paying for all women's health care, not just a wee portion of it. An early abortion is considered to be part of the health care law. WE are all paying for it. Since we cannot dictate how that money is spent, we are paying for abortions. It is hidden in the back pages of your policy as a "medical" procedure
It is, in essence, and unfunded mandate from Congress

 

Then your INSURANCE PROVIDER is not in compliance with the law. Why are you blaming the ACA?

 

It's illegal for them to use federal funding for abortion unless one of the 3 conditions mentioned above is met. I don't know why you are having a difficult time with that.

What about my sperm reference. When you orgasm outside of the woman's body, you are killing MILLIONS of potential babies.

 

because my provider DID NOT write the idiot liberal loving stupid law.
So, you at least agree that I pay for abortions through an unfunded mandate, ordered up through Obie.....

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dude, those are your issues, not mine. I'm going on a limb and stating for the record, we don't care about your sperm. Ask any woman, there's more where that came from, right?

 

I am a woman, and I object to you killing those sperm cells.

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It's spermacide!!! How silly, right?

 

killing my sperm? I'm not the one bragging about it.......

 

Try again. Obamacare does not mandate funding abortions. The law specifically instructs insurance companies not to use federal funds for it:

It's very frustrating that "pro-lifers" use lies to try to destroy Obamacare WHICH STUDIES SHOW REDUCES ABORTIONS. Rather, you want to reduce abortions by taking women's rights, as in this thread, "get your tubes tied."

 

chargin me for that service, which I don't use, because that service is mandated to all insurance companies, equals I'm paying for it, mandated, so it IS a tax ordered up bu some (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) in DC.
I don't use that service, don't need that service, but someone YOU know will, and I've paid for it.....ordered money to pay through government is a tax. just a different collector

 

You don't pay for abortions unless your insurance provider is breaking the law. It's that simple. Again, "pro-lifers" use LIES to attempt to destroy Obamacare, which SIGNIFICANTLY reduces abortions, because they would rather take away women's rights, e.g., "get your tubes tied."

 

what don't you get about it being covered under women's Health and listed as a medical procedure ?

 

People are forced to pay for women to give birth, so why not abortions?

 

What don't you get about this:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/the-abortion-issue/
The law says individuals who get federal subsidy dollars must use their private money to pay for coverage of abortion except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother.

 

I have no idea what you are blathering about . . . bragging? I said that you should be FORCED to ejaculate inside the female, otherwise you are killing MILLIONS of potential babies. I'm using this as an example of how silly you are to try and force a woman to keep the fertilized egg/embryo.

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Again, as has been shown to you numerous times now, the ONLY way it is a covered expense is in the case of rape, incest or mother's/baby's life. Other than that, it is an ELECTIVE procedure.

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And he is probably one of the people who gets angry at having to support these moms and babies on welfare too.

 

Undoubtedly, one of the first and loudest to complain. It's easier than actually fixing something.

 

Maybe your wife would need those services.

 

only the generational welfare moms. They wee raised that way, they raise their kids that way.
I don't have a problem using it only as a safety net. But some people, white, black, Latino, and Asian use it to freakin' death and them beyond. Let me tell you sometime how they abuse it through two or three generations.................it'll frost your rear end too.........

 

Hey, some people are going to be irresponsible. That is life. If you are going to force these women to have the children, then be prepared to pay for those children. That is just one reason why I am pro choice. I wasn't always pro choice though. I've learned a lot from posting on these forums and just from realizing that some people are not cut out to be parents. Some of them may even be selfish jerks. Are those the kind of people you want to push parenthood on?

 

Is what the woman's fault? The pregnancy, or the abortion??

 

Everything.

 

I would be interested in the answer to that question too.

Also, I wonder how he feels about the situation when the man wants the woman to have an abortion, but she refuses and makes him pay child support.

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What if the man wants the woman to have an abortion and she says "no." Then she makes him pay child support. How do you feel about that scenario? Now, HE is the one being forced into being parent against his will. The only difference is, the man can and does just walk in a lot of cases.

 

Well, if it was just a worthless clump of cells in there, with no meaning other than that which the woman chooses to give it—if I believed that—then I would have no problem with the father being allowed to assert his reproductive rights. After all, the fetus doesn't really "belong" to the woman. Doesn't the man have just as much right to control his reproduction as the woman does?

Some choicers might say that the man's choice ends as soon as he has sex. Well, maybe the woman's should too.