Deputy who threw South Carolina student from her desk is fired

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  1. Pax Aeon

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    I'm not going to discount that the first part of damage control in this kind of situation is to limit the amount of fiscal liability. Riots? I think not. However when you consider the incident and the history of Officer Fields, he is clearly in violation many different laws. To this extent, he's hardly a sacrificial lamb. He is an alleged criminal.
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    The only reason folks like you try to defend this coward is because that young girl is black, there is no way in hell you would try to defend this coward's actions if this young girl was white. The coward's nickname at school is "Officer Slam".
     
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    The only reason you're all worked up is because the girl is black and the cop is white. If that was my son in the video he'd be in big trouble when he got home for being such a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that the cops had to be called in to fix what ailed him. Back when I was a kid we didn't do things that would bring shame on our family. This brat of a kid apparently didn't give a crap about what anyone would think of the upbringing her parents provided her.

    When I was in high school we had a gym teacher would was built like a phone booth and infractions by us kids were met with a punch in the arm that would often knock us to the floor. My dad had the same gym teacher when he went to school and said they were getting soft on us compared to his day.
     
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    The principal was black also and that coward stood back and watched. I am worked up because had the girl been black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, Iranian, etc. the officer had no reason to handle her in that manner. That is why I am worked up.

    Yea if were your son, but if that were your daughter you would be pissed off and ready to kill somebody that a man handled your daughter in that manner.

    Kids have been getting in trouble in school since the first school house opened.

    Sorry, that BS doesn't justify how he handle this kid.

    How many girls did that gym teacher punch in the arm? You don't need to answer because I already know, 0.
     
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    No link to the article and could not find the article based on the except from the OP.

    Anyway, here is an interesting article about SRO's, their training, etc.

    https://www.yahoo.com/health/how-an-in-school-officer-should-be-trained-194413386.html

    According to the article, there are about 14000 to 20000 SRO's in the country. Most receive specific training dealing with students from an organization dedicated to this sort of thing, but not South Carolina. In South Carolina, SRO's get the same training in the Law enforcement academy and about 40 hours of SRO training. The SRO training deals with how to find drugs, identify gang members, etc, but not how to interact with students who misbehave.
     
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    NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, USAToday Web site all laid out the same videos. Fox, however, specifically mentioned race while the CNN and NBC articles did not. The OP had a link to an alleged article, with no link BTW, that also mentioned race. So, I fail to see how the gross overgeneralizations are having any merit here other than with the usual suspects for race baiting.

    The problem is that Fox is no different than the other news organizations. It just gets a pass from conservatives because of its owner. On a personal note, I do read sometimes Fox business articles on its web site but usually the ones that talk about a specific company doing this or that. They tend to have good analysis on some companies, but the organization does drop the ball quite a bit when it decides to put a political spin into the economic analysis. CNBC and CNN/Money tend to do the same thing, just not quite as often as Fox Business.

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    I do not read Salon, and was concentrating on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox. Traditional MSM's and not web based internet news organizations.

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    Other, less violent ways may be pressure points on the wrist, asking her to read in front of the class what exactly she is texting, or having to cite something, without the help of a book or notes or friends, what the class topic was about.
     
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    Expulsion simply transfers the problems from one school to another. That does not mean expulsion should never be used, just used as a last resort or for an offense where both the safety of others students and that student would be solved with expulsion.

    For expulsion, it really depends on the facts and circumstances and the code of conduct within each district.
     
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    I don't mean expelling the student from one school, and making them another schools problem... I suggest expelling them permanently from the school system... why should other students be forced to have disruptions passed around constantly from one school to another, only to continue the problem in another... they should be removed from the school system forever, unless they enter some program for troubled students who want to work their way back into a school system, create that program and give them a chance if you want... but otherwise get rid of them for the sake of all the other students who don't deserve to have a new problem of the month participant transferred to their school...

    now I'm not saying we don't educate them... but clearly if they need to be removed from a school, they've demonstrated they don't have the skills necessary to be in that kind of environment... give them a desktop or tablet... give them a website... and let them take online classes and do the work on their own schedule under their parents supervision... make the parent responsible for the problem child... we're not here to raise your kid, thats your job to send them to the school prepared, if they aren't prepared mentally, physically, or socially, or emotionally, thats not the issue for the school to solve, enjoy having your kid at home, make sure they do their homework, its your job now...

    so they can still get an education, I doubt it will vary much from what they were likely to achieve being a disruption daily... but at least now maybe all the other kids will have a chance... we owe them that... we don't owe that to the one causing the problem, they can learn to love the tablet and learn from that... but those other kids, they deserve peace...
     
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    Young
    Girl
    Black
    .....All irrelevant.

    You're just card dropping.

    Oh, and the nickname is also irrelevant, though I suppose some could ponder on why people make up nicknames for other people. Heh, they call me Tiny....wonder why?

    Usually such titles or nicknames are based on bias and bigotry.

    But i suppose you wouldn't know anything about such things would you?
     
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    Of the twelve minutes, the two minutes where the police officers are seen kicking Mr King while on the ground is what was excessive.

    To recap, King was pulled over on suspicion of DWI. His passenger, who was with King, obeyed the orders and got out of the car. King refused. Police officers forced King out of the car. Once out, King laid on the ground. Police officers, at that time were beating him, manhandling him, etc to get out of the car and onto the ground. Once on the ground, the police officers started kicking him. Then a supervisor came and stopped it.

    The trial was moved from central LA to a suburb of LA who would acquit any police officer. That is why the police officers were found innocent along with the star witness for the prosecution had a long history of drugs, another negative stereotype the suburb had.
     
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    Cannot disagree with any of this.
     
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    We have mandatory school attendance laws in this country up to the age of 18 and expelling them from every public school system harms the child and the parents more. Again, one should not be expelled for a mistake that they made. They need to learn from that mistake, hopefully from their parents first, and the school second. And finally, teen peer pressure may be used here for her to NOT use the phone while in class.

    Second, kids are disruptive all the time, especially the first minute or two once that bell rings at the start of class. Would not matter if the school is located in Beverley Hills or urban, housing project, or anywhere in between.

    Finally, the main issue is to get the parents involved. Don't know how much her parents are involved, but this sort of thing happens because it happens at home as well. Not saying we should blame the parents, but this behavior is learned and allowed from somewhere else that is brought into the school.
     
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    The last original member of Ted Turner's CNN to be purged from CNN was Lou Dobbs. Probably the last person on CNN who wasn't a liberal loon, a white beard scratching PC liberal, gay or a person of color. If you aren't one of the later, you have no career with CNN.

     
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    so what solution have you offered for this... none?

    please tell us the exact steps you would take for students refusing to listen to the teacher, and then the administrator, and then finally a POLICE OFFICER... she refused to listen to ALL THREE and defied every attempt at authority...

    first time... talk to the parents?
    second time... sit down with a counselor?
    third time...
    forth time...
    fifth time...
    sixth time...

    how many times do you let students act out, how many times do you let students swear at teachers, how many times shall this continue?

    kids who act like this, this is far from their first time, its far from their last time... don't give me the talking points, the excuses, or the justification... give me the hard answers and the solutions to prevent these kids from ruining the education of all the other students... don't those other students deserve a chance to learn? how can they...

    at what point do you put the rights of the other students ahead of the ones causing the problem... the other students should just learn to live with it and deal with it?

    very equal and fair world... all of them must suffer because one suffers... maybe thats why our education system is the total craphole it is today... adults afraid to be adults...
     
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    You get this in response would be my guess.




    Disturbing Schools Law for
    South Carolina
    Student Affairs Info and Policies
    • Student Code of Conduct
    Disturbing Schools Law for South Carolina SECTION 12. Section 16-17-420
    of the 1976 Code: "Section 16-17-420.
    (A) It shall be unlawful:
    (1) For any person willfully or unnecessarily (a) to interfere with or to
    disturb in any way or in any place the students or teachers of any school or
    college in this State, (b) to loiter about such school or college premises or
    (c) to act in an obnoxious manner thereon; or (2) For any person to (a)
    enter upon any such school or college premises or (b) loiter around the
    premises, except on business, without the permission of the principal or
    president in charge.
    (B) Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty
    of a misdemeanor and, on conviction thereof, shall pay a fine of not more
    than one thousand dollars or be imprisoned in the county jail for not more
    than ninety days. (C) The su mmary courts are vested with jurisdiction to
    hear and dispose of cases involving a violation of this section. If the person
    is a child as defined by Section 63-19-20, jurisdiction must remain vested in
    the Family Court."
     
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    It was a set-up...
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    Student arrested during Spring Valley incident says she told classmates to video
    October 29, 2015 - Second student arrested at Spring Valley High School speaks out; Niya Kenny says school resource officer had a bad reputation; Kenny says she told other students to video the incident with their cellphones
     
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    And this is why we have Ferguson, Chicago, Trayvon Martin, ad nauseam. The Black youth are out of control and need to be reined in. That won't happen by being nice. Look at the 'flash mobs' in the big cities. In the old days children were kept in check with stern discipline. Today they are off the leash with no parental or cultural guidance, unless you consider Snoop Dog a role model. :roll:
     
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    Actually this is why racism still runs rampant, because racist see these types of incidents go on and they try to justify them with their racist hatred.

    Nobody is saying this girl shouldn't have been disciplined if she was out of order, but in no way should any officer be allowed to handle a girl who is no threat to herself, the officer or anyone else in that manner.

    You babble off all the racist excuses you like, but the same folks who are trying to justify this officer's actions would be outraged had this student been a white girl.
     
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    The girl needed to be beat. She's an idiot and will grow up to be a burden on society. But as a Liberal you don't believe in punishing bad behavior. Maybe she needs more entitlements. :roll: The people are fed up with this BS from the Black Community of always making excuses for ignorant behavior.
     
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    Lou Dobbs was fired, or as he say left voluntarily, CNN because of his anti immigration stance. His stance was not just illegals, but with legal immigrants while his guests to verify his viewpoint were nativists, anti immigrationists, and similar organizations. He has now joined Fox Business news as a host along with another host from the UK who holds similar views. The is the political spin I am talking about and thank you for proving my point that Fox is no better than any other news organization.
     
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    There is no one panacea, take a pill, solution here. The problem that we have in this country, whether one is rich, middle class, or poor, is the fact that parents generally do not take an interest in their kids education. Getting the parents involved would reduce a majority of "acting out" by teenagers. Second, schools, both public and private, need to stop being surrogate parents. Third, use peer pressure. If a kid misbehaves in class, the whole class suffers with the consequences. That consequence would be detention and/or suspension from school activities. As long as the "acting out" does not escalate or that acting out does not violate the more serious offenses such as bullying, then let kids be kids and have them figure it out on their own. When their grades suffer because of the little acting out, then that is the kid's problem and no one elses.
     
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    I really could care less. The left wingers have lied so much about instances like this that it doesn't surprise me at all. There are always consequences to the lefts efforts and it is becoming obvious they have put society on the wrong path. More and more people are seeing it.
     
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    what she did is no different than suburbia with a white kid, Hispanic kid, or even an Asian kid.
     
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    The way some of the psychopaths on this forum speak they would be delirious with joy had she been shot. After all, she 'deserved' it.
     
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    They still haven't arrested and charged the unemployed knuckle-dragging ex-cop? What's the hold up? Child abusers should be dealt with sooner rather than later.
     

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