What a courageous lady, standing up for a peaceful minority - Muslims!

You really have problems keeping up and focused, don't you?

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His/her inability to keep up and focused is starting to be a bit worrying.

 

You call my comparison "quite ridiculous" but that's how I see your assumptions of Muslims based on your two hour interaction at a Muslim fair. What's the difference?

 

and you have no answer so you resort to this rubbish. Good on ya

 

Yes and the Bible also commands the killing of homosexuals. But the difference is the Christain failth went through a period of enlightenment and they now take the position that some things in the Bible do not fit with modern world thinking on freedom, tolerance and acceptance.
The fact is, THERE ARE NO Christian death squads roamming the world indiscriminatley murdering innocent people, including children. To compare Muslim terrorists to Christian faiths is just a thinly vailed excuse and apology for the Muslim killers.

 

You have nearly caught up, keep going, I have faith in you.

 

You have hit the nail on the head Adult. The Christian religion has/is going through enlightenment and modernisation, but Islam has not gone through the same enlightenment and modernisation - its just stagnant.

Islam wants modern worshipers to live under concepts designed Centuries ago, and that is where the conflict is occurring, because the concepts of Islam are outdated for a modern progressive human society.

Religions are the most racist and discriminatory organisations imaginable, but no one has woken up to this yet.

 

oh you are so full of yourself, you have NO ANSWER do you precious.

 

I just did. Please keep up.

 

Islam is still in the stone age...always will be....

 

I'm not suggesting that every religion is 100% perfect, but the majority are actively trying to change their out-date philosophies in a positive way to conform with what a modern human society needs and wants. All except Islam, who wants to stay stagnant, and subject its worshipers and everyone who is not a worshiper, to antiquated doctrine not relevant to a modern human society. The worse part about all this, is that we also have to contend with dim witted do-ggoders and bleeding hearts constantly making excuses for an antiquated Islamic religion that discriminates, and who is racist against anyone, who is not of the Islamic faith.

Then, these same dim- witted do-gooder and bleeding hearts have the audacity to accuse others of being racist and discriminatory for attacking Islam and people who willingly follow a religious faith that is racist and discriminatory.

These dim witted do-gooders and bleeding hearts really have the intellect of turnips, but try to pretend they are advocating a just cause.

I seriously believe that some are so psychologically desperate for friendship and acceptance, that they are willing to accept anything and anyone just to fit in. This would certainly explain why these do-gooders and bleeding hearts accept and tolerate a religion (Islam) and its worshipers, who practice open discrimination and racism against anyone who is not of their faith.

 

Islam is diseased political ideology which uses religion to control as many people as it can. There is no spiritual utility beyond 'submission' to the ideology. It's adherents think vacuity and restricted/controlled cult like community is spiritual... when compared to Western lifestyles it might be more spiritual, but its not very spiritual compared to other systems of religion and spirituality.

There is no way Islam will let itself grow up, its too rigid and tight to allow it because it's directly counter to its purpose, which is to grow, convert and control.

 

It seems to me that the some people still take a hard stand towards gays and lesbians, towards Muslims anyway and war refugees in general, not to forget our Abos. However the same people are applauding Christianity for its modern stand and enlightenment.
The world is a freaky place, isn't it? But there are times when things appear to be a bit fishy, you know it is the smell I am talking about.....
Regards

 

What a load of hogwash.

96% of Muslims are moderate. They live normal lives like you and I. The media beat up sucks everyone in. It's like saying all blondes are just dumb bimbo sluttts. You guys would be the first ones to support your argument by using pam Anderson as the example. So are all blondes dumb bimbos with a promiscuous twist? Are all footy players rapists because of a handful? I have to agree with cats, which is no surprise, that you are blind haters. It's a shame you guys are so easily led by popular news!

 

Presumably Christian ideology isn't "diseased" because of groups like the LRA or conflicts like Bosnia. When the Irish were killing each other it wasn't because there was some fundamental problem with Catholicism or Protestantism either. Religion just gets mixed up in ethnic identity. There's a pretty significant population of African Christians that still murder "witches" and homosexuals in the name of Christianity, does that have anything to do with Christianity in Australia? No.

The middle eastern conflict has little to do with scripture or even "religion" per se. They're centuries old ethnic and political conflicts, latest round of which has been going on for decades and fueled by the US and Russia.

The reason the West is targeted is because of our heavy involvement there, not because of some supposed incompatibility between our cultures.

There are multiple large scale civil wars going on in the mid east and the situation is extremely complicated. Blaming it all on "Islam" is not accurate or helpful.

As for Bendigo, if you're a Christian protesting against a Mosque you're setting a dangerous precedent if you win. All not allowing it will do is further isolate the Muslim community. People talk about wanting "assimilation", well you don't get assimilation if you force Muslims to live in concentrated numbers to be allowed to have a church. You don't get assimilation by ostracism. Let them have their Mosque, but also encourage them to play cricket and have bbqs and do other stereotypical "western" stuff.

 

Yea 'moderate', like how the couple who went on a rampage in the US last week's family says they were 'moderate'. Wake up, the DNA of islam is rotten, go read the Quran yourself and you'll see the real moderates are actually the ones cherry picking, the rest believe it all and just keep their traps shut until they 'pop' and be real to their belief's demands.

There is no moderate Islam, just self proclaimed moderate muslim's - do the math and read between the lines.

 

See you have to Cherry Pick your examples. The way you talk they are plotting a takeover at every Muslim dinner table.

Did you watch the combined schools concert on TV last night. There where Muslim girls dancing and singing on the stage in front of millions of people.

That is what makes me proud to be Australian, that families can come here and send their daughters to school, that they can be free. That makes me a proud Australian while the Reclaim Australia mob disgust me as you do

 

I happen to capture an interview with Peter Dutton on Sky news this morning. Basically, it is interesting how a change of leader provokes massive changes in attitude of a party. The language, the ideas and manner is different. Dutton was one of those 3 word slogan carrying boof heads obviously tailoring his political persona on Abbott's rabble-rousing approach, which is damaging and divisive.

Anyway, I listened to a refreshing angle on this topic, which will obviously reverberate hopefully.

One of the issues he raised was that of Muslims not speaking out about terrorist attacks involving Muslims: Muslim denominations are in the thousands and doctrines are much more varied than Christianity. Who speaks out? The denomination who is associated? E.g the Catholic Church, Baptist, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Seven day Adventists, Mormons or Jehovah's Witness. They are all so different in doctrine and certainly have a vastly different message from each other as though they weren't inextricably linked through biblical text and New Testament scripture. His message was about educating the Australian public on this breakdown, but essentially not confusing moderate Muslims with extremist elements. Ensuring that vulnerable young people who are marginalised by society aren't manipulated by extremist messages.

Tolerance costs nothing but value adds to our society but intolerance costs us more than some people care to consider.

 

Try and keep up with the convo, your point is not relevant to mine and since you meant it as a counter to mine I don't have anything to add other then that is irrelevant. I'm not talking about the degree of commitment of individual muslims.... can't you read?!

I'm talking about the actual religion they profess - and how its diseased functionally. The established fact that some follow it very lightly and in cherry picked parts, while some follow it intimately in entirely as gospel is irrelevant - especially so when not even the close family members of terrorists can tell when the radicalization has occurred. If Islam is going to 'grow up' from its dark ages content then it needs to be able to be followed in its entirety without promoting religious war! In Christianity it's what the New Testament did for the Old Testament.

Stop trying to stifle discussion about islam by making everyone critical of it out as a bigot.

 

I did nothing of the sort, you sit at the keyboard like some great sage with all the answers yet EVERY reply shows your total ignorance and inability to see anything other than the propaganda being spread by terrorists and their supporters. We have had plenty of examples of white Christian radicals doing exactly the same thing using passages from the Bible like I posted.

You and the others like you with your own agenda which is demonstrated here actually are helping the terrorists do their work. Good on ya

 

I'm way ahead of any conversation with you, I am well aware of your agenda the world tried to rid itself of your types decades ago but like all hatred it endures in small numbers of those who have alteria motives and they use total miss representation of the truth for their own purposes.

You are a bring conned big time.

 

Lol, is that your attempt at an answer, as you make out like you still didn't get it. The issue is not anyone (Christian, Muslim etc) cherry picking bits of something to promote the violent parts, its that in Islam the moderates cherry pick bit the peaceful bits to avoid the violence. Christians had the NT which evolved the archiac OT. That is the difference with Islam, the thing in its entirety is for a closed, fearful, vengeful and submissive society and relationship with God... its a rewrite of the OT and NT but restructured to support a tribal society and tribal god.

There is nothing the terrorists want more then for people to accept their view of Islam, so undermining that is not helping terrorists. The weak point your failing at trying to make I guess is how pointing out the problems with Islam is somehow meant to create division - well its only harmful in that regard if muslim's are too weak to see past their veils of blind faith.

 

Your hate and bigotry is starting to show, you might want to cover that up for the 'promotion of virtue and the prevention of vice'

Hint: your seeing things you want to see because you've been brainwashed to see things that way. Wake up, you don't know me and you clearly cannot read this particular topic without getting emotional and delusional.

 

Sorry we couldn't afford a second prize.

 

Yep, they read a few news paper articles, then all of a sudden become experts on all things, especially Islam. I know didly squat in real terms but you know once a bigot starts, you know their only angle, and that's to feed their appetite for hatred with anything or anyone different, which essentially requires a little more thought than building a profile built on a few newspaper articles.

 

How did you figure this all out? Considering the Islamic bible DEMANDS all Muslims to treat anyone who is not of the Islamic faith to be an INFIDEL. Why do you think Muslims are going to socialise by playing cricket, having BBQ's and other stereotypical Western stuff, when this would mean they have to go against their own religious faith?

You are making excuses for a bastard cult that discriminates, and is racist against anyone who is not of their faith.