What a courageous lady, standing up for a peaceful minority - Muslims!

If your going to drink you should share it around

It's not attacking muslim's, it's giving them advice.
I'm happy that the boat's have stopped because it means less people stuck in detention, less people drowning at sea, and less taxpayer money spent sorting out the refugee's from the economic migrants.
Not much to say about child molesters, but I think its a mental health issue more then anything to do with religion. Many organizations which had care responsibilities for children had men assaulting children sexually... but if you start a thread about it I'm happy to post in it.

 

I agree with you. I sometimes think this forum is full of alcoholics. It definitely explains why children make more sense than they do.

 

We are just leading by your example, in the same way you never stand up against Muslims for being discriminatory and racist against anyone who is not a Muslim. Or standing up against Muslims who want to stone and burn women for adultery.

Oh, that's right, these are the same people, with the same barbaric religious philosophies that you want to allow into Australia.

Oh, please forgive me; you just want to allow moderate Muslims into Australia right? But the funny thing is, there are NO moderate Muslims, because Islam has not gone through any modern enlightenment - its sill a stagnant barbaric religion operating on a doctrine from the 12th century that all modern day Muslims have to obey if they want to reach heaven. .

For a Muslim not to obey, would be like a Catholic not believing in Jesus and the Virgin Mary and expecting to reach Heaven.

I will be watching your posting very carefully the next time there is a topic about women and discrimination, and you accuse someone else of being discriminatory.

You're so funny sometimes Catter.

 

Real Muslims don't commit murder, only the derailed/mislead ones or the nutters. Not a bit different to Christians I would say. If someone wants to murder, he/she will do regardless of his/her belief.
I am a bit surprised that someone who is happy to have refugees rot in hellholes accuses me of not standing up to crimes......

There are plenty of things I struggle with:
Burka for women (in the 21st century), stoning to death (in some countries), honor murders, withdraw of education (in some countries), female mutilation (in some countries) and so on.
However we have to ask ourselves, whether those things are actually backed by this religion (Islam) or whether those things are forced by a small group of people, who uses this religion to uphold their antiquated views and the power they enjoy.....

Regards

 

Islam today is no different in philosophy and doctrine to what Catholicism was back in the Middle Ages - a barbaric religion. Anyone looking at Islam from the outside knows Islam needs reform and enlightenment, but there is a problem. There are more senior people within Islam that want Islam to stay the way it is, then people inside Islam wanting to change it.

If you don't think Islam condones stoning and burning women, and much, much, more, then enlighten yourself and read the Koran.

There are heaps of english translations available on the internet for free, just google it.

 

Aren't those the same people (on the other side of the fence) who want to stop the boats, to keep our country pure white, pure Christian, pure pure pure?

And the other thing in regards to barbaric, as we speak there are still children sexually abused by the church clergy, covered up by a higher institution of the same. In the 21st century!
All good?????????
Regards

 

I'm done with with topic and conversation.

If you believe Muslims, and the current Islamic religion is harmless, then the responsibility and accountability for their actions falls on your individual conscience.

 

The biggest victim's of religious islamic violence are muslim's themselves, and its been going on for over 1300 years. They haven't bothered to fix the one thing which is causing it, the Quran. So, it becomes non-muslim's problem when it effects non-muslim's which it has now passed a threshold of tolerance in the West - not a tolerance for islam, but rather a tolerance to leave it up to the mulsim's to fix. Hence why non-muslims are saying these sorts of things now.

So also given quite a few members of the IS came from within the Australian islamic community, it is really concerning that the islamic leadership in this country are so blinded by something to see everything as anti-Islam.

Which itself is again part of the problem with the Quran. I think it breeds sectarianism and mistrust on non-muslim's (amongst other things). The local muslim's first need to realize the scope of the problem they have inherited in their culture/religion to even comprehend where outsiders might actually be coming from. The whole strict muslim worldview (literal intepretation) is not suitable for the modern age.

All they need to do is get behind a modified version, with the bad bits removed. A re-write into the what of the modern moderate religion is according to them. This will make it easier for them to spot those being radicalized, while making the moderate interpretation more widespread among islamic nations to avoid people being misled by extremists so easily.

 

Yep, go to confession everytime you perpetrate a sin....its all good! The doctrine and laws of the Christian church are very questionable, but what makes it worse is that they try and cover each other's tracks. 100's of thousands of young boys lives ruined, which reverberates through their families through the emotional scares and becoming perpetrators themselves. Why aren't the JW's, Mormons, batist, Pentecostals, Lutheran speaking out about these atrocious acts. They're all Christians!

 

Isn't that interesting, again you complain of persecution of a religious minority by persecuting another religion... And you think this is alright???

What do YOU know about child abuse by religious authorities??? Obviously, so little, you will clearly demonstrate that ignorance to pretend you care. Really HOW disgusting are you??? To what level will you sink to win some political point???

Are you not acting in the very manner you want to complain about???

Of course we know how disgusting and depraved you can be, to support some stupid argument you think you are having but the truth is you actually show the very depraved traits you are complaining about. AND do you think child abuse has a political side??? As apparently you are the only one who cares... Just bloody disgusting...

 

The world is a little more depraved and a little more stupid because you open your mouth...

 

How about the degenerates who have no comprehension and ability to contextualise a written text but still continues to respond incongruently. No guessing for who does this with vacuous monotony.

 

Do not try and justify your own depravity by pointing to others and pretending you are morally justified by their actions… YOU are responsible for your own actions and you have crossed the line demonstrating YOUR depravity. Demonstrating that you provide nothing but your own ignorance and bigotry...

And again the world is a little more depraved and just a little more stupid because you opened you mouth.

 

Only a bigot would say that! ;roflol:

 

And again the world is a little more depraved and just a little more stupid because you opened you mouth.

 

Build the Mosque but monitor it. Mosques are where people get radicalized. Not all Mosques preach radical dogma.

 

Agree, obviously it require mosques to provide information on any suspicions, but probably do this already. Simple and sensible approach.

 

Garry mate,
take your pills, that sounds terrifying.....
Regards

 

Tell me,
is there a single soul on this planet who understands you? Your wish is being granted, you can leave now....
Regards

 

Well, I thought YOU might actually apologise for your disgraceful attempt to use child molestation for a political point. Sadly I was mistaken; obviously you reside under the same rock as your supporter...

Oh and I am little surprised you think molesting children is a light hearted event that does not deserve serious demonization... But hey, what should the world expect from such depravity…

SO Obviously if you wish to stand by that depravity then… Yes the world is just a little more depraved and a little more stupid because you opened you mouth…

 

garry,
I have never seen you to take a stand against the church (in regards to child molestation).
However, if the subject is Islam, you are full on.......
I leave that to others to judge,
regards

 

I am sorry, but I would have thought you would be able to understand that Child molestation is not a political problem you wheel out to justify your stance on religion… Apparently NOT.

Fact is, YOU seem totally incapable to understand what you claim as justification is just the filthiest tolling anybody can do and expect ANY credibility for your stand…

You are foolish enough to continue to justify your disgusting beliefs of racism and bigotry by trying to compare one group of people to another and pretend the higher ground…

No, Again YOU and your supporter leave the world just that little bit more depraved and little bit more stupid by opening your mouth… I do think, instead of continuing pretence of humanity you should just fade away into obscurity where you belong, in the cesspit with your mate…


Yes, others will decide, but obviously you have been displayed as the gutter trash you are...

 

Christ, what an unhappy soul.

 

If you were to do this then would it only be fair to pressure christian churches to relinquish information gained through confessionals...... Good luck

 

Yeap,
and after the German nutter flew his plane into a mountain in Southfrance, killing around 150 people, I wonder how long it will take for governments (all around the world) to lift the medical confidentiality.
I think that might turn out to become a nice career, spying that is.....
Regards

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Yeap Gwendo,
whatever you answer him, nothing makes him happy...............
Regards