The ark and a world wide flood.

nope. We know there was never a global flood at any time in earths history.

 

What evidence is there that layers that thick can form in about a year? The sedimentary layer of Everest is about 250m thick.


BTW, Basalt is not a metamorphic rock. Metamorphic rocks are not formed by volcanoes. Please study geology a bit more before you blather on an on about silliness.

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Why do creationists continue to lie and spread mistruths?

 

How so very true.

 

I always find it amusing when a creationist criticizes scientists for making assumptions.

Not in the least. Please enlighten me.

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Explains why the Discovery Institute produces such bad science.

 

The story of Noah's ark and a worldwide flood is a teaching narrative.. didactic literature.. It was never intended as history or science..

Arguing about it or trying to prove it with pseudo science is really infantile,

 

Show historical evidence NOT from somebody biased and that was contemporary to Jesus (not 75 years after he died).

The two versions are contraditory. One says Judas bought the field...the other says the priests bought the field. One doesn't mention the priests being involved...the other doesn't mention Judas being involved.

Again, no....the two versions are contradictory. And wouldn't Judas committing SUICIDE be worth mentioning? Not just "He fell over and exploded"?

No, you are terrified that the Bible has errors in it. Because you cannot abide "grey area"...in your mind, ONE error in the Bible...and the whole thing falls apart.

Ask you directly (you likely won't answer directly)....

(hypothetically) if there is even ONE error in the Bible, does that not mean that there could be more? Yes or No?

 

As I noted before....YECs have to reject more than biology, geology, chemistry, paleontology....

they have to reject astronomy and physics.

If the Earth is 6000 years old....then the STARS are only 6000 years old...and thus, it would be impossible for us to see any start that is more than 6000 light-years away.

 

Mantra. It's false because you say so.

 

HA! As for hippos do they have a tail of a cedar tree? For crocs can you kill them with a spear and do they breathe fire?

 

....Uh....neither does anything else, except in fiction.

Oh...I forgot, you believe in fiction as reality.

 

This.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H02Z6XqxsDc

Just scale it up.

I never said basalt was and I'm sorry about the latter.

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Why do creationists continue to lie and spread mistruths?[/QUOTE]

 

It's false because theres no evidence.

 

T. Rex has a head full of air chambers. The bombadier beetle can spray chemicals at boiling point of water. Also there is such thing as flamethrowers. The makings of a fire breathing dragon does exist in real life.

 

Like I said..................

 

Well for one thing these "biased" people died for what they believe. How many would die for a known lie? Also I've shown you from a cold case perspective that indeed the witnesses are valid.

No they are not as I told you.

Wouldn't that be considered suicide?

I hold that God prevent end his word and if he didnt in the KJV then where is it? If God exists and he made everything its up to him to preserve it.

Yes, if there's one there's bound to be another. Mistakes hardly come alone.

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Denial...

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Again, mantra.

 

A wonderful example of "Creation Science" with a discussion of "fire breathing dragons".

https://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=50

 

Again...theres no evidence.

 

Hale-Bopp cultists? Jonestown cultists?

You can cite NO un-biased witness to the Resurrection of Christ. Only the Disciples. And no contemporary un-biased account of Jesus' life....even the "Roman scholars" weren't discussing the "Christ cult" until DECADES after Jesus' supposed death.

Yes, they are. One says the priests bought the field...the other says Judas bought the field. One says Judas hanged himself....the other says that he "fell over and burst open" and says nothing about a hanging.

How does falling down and bursting open constitute "suicide"...unless he jumped off a cliff? But if he jumped off a cliff....the account that says he hanged himself...is wrong.

Okay, so if there can be error in the Bible.....then there could be errors in the account of Jesus' life, his death, and....supposed Resurrection....couldn't there?

That's what scares you and why you're a Literalist .....if Genesis is disputable...then Exodus could be disputable....so could Kings or Samuel or Ruth....

and if the Old Testament is disputable, then ...so could the New.

That's why you MUST consider the Bible to be completely historic and error-free...even when it clearly is illogical, much less non-historical....and when it contradicts itself.

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"Creation science" is like "abstinence-based pregnancy".....


oh, wait....Bristol Palin has proven that exists................twice.

 

LOLOL

For Christians to base their faith on children's stories is somewhat sad.

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LOLOL

For Christians to base their faith on children's stories is somewhat sad.

 

As it has become painfully obvious you are not capable of accepting or even understanding basic realities, I for one am now done with you and any entertainment value has delved into the realm of frustration.

You are now on IGNORE.

 

Ok here.

http://www.xenos.org/essays/case-christs-resurrection

http://cmfs.org.s3.amazonaws.com/PowerPoint/Resurrection_Truth_Presenters_Notes.pdf

Again, the benifit of the doubt goes to the text. Judas provided the money to the priests. One said from a technical viewpoint (dad giving $20 to jimmy) and the other said from a more obvious viewpoint (jimmy spending the $20 dad gave him). One witness saw judas hanging and the other saw him fall. It's not that hard to comprehend.

But it doesn't (at least from the KJV) so see above.

Yes.

Show me where. Besides this is off topic.

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You haven't proved it to be so.

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And again, mantra. Are we going to continue this game or are you going to provide evidence?

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Your own fault for posting here. Also your opinion of me is just that.

 

I don't play "games"; that's something creationists do.

 

Yes. One has to decide whether one is reading the Bible from the point of view of religious logic or by the rules of science/history.

Yours is an appeal to switch to religious logic, of course.

I don't really mean this as a criticism. It's certainly worthwhile to understand whether we're investigating according to religious belief or by evidence and confirmation.

Sometimes the two look similar, of course. Other times there is an explicit and exclusive switch to one or the other.

 

The problem here is that he is switching off REASON AND LOGIC.

Science and Knowledge do NOT have to interfere with FAITH.....unless of course a person of FAITH attempts to use ancient human religious texts as history and science books.

They are not.

They are simply ancient man writing about REALITY which they at the time had very little insight or knowledge in or of.

The Bible both New and Old Testaments were CREATED by the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon and as the Gospels in many cases CONFLICTED....only 4 Gospels of the FAB 4...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were selected and none of the other Apostles Gospels were selected by the Biblical Canon.

Now....WHY does one think only 4 were used?

Because the others CONFLICTED with each other!!!

The Bible, Koran, Tanakh, Hindu Bible...etc....ARE NOT BOOKS OF HISTORY OR SCIENCE.

They were developed as a way to TEACH MORALITY....and they have been changed over the years many times.

Once a person understands this...then they can deal with the fact that Science, History, Geology, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics...etc....does NOT interfere with a person believing in a GOD or not.

Reality however does run contrary to RELIGION.

And remember....TODAY'S RELIGION....is TOMORROWS MYTHOLOGY.

AA

 

Then provide the evidence.