Bill Clinton - most popular president in 50+ years

ROFL Clinton causes his OWN problems he doesn't even Republicans to do that. And his mistake was not telling the truth in a federal court and a federal grand jury.

So what he was a grown man, a married man, and her boss and it was Bill who sought her out that night of their first round of sex in the Oval Office, you know that reprehensible act by so dishonoring the Presidency
and the Office in which it is conducted.

It most certainly was not, he was a public official operating under the public trust and she was a federal employee on the job. It was very MUCH our business how he conducts that business especially when it comes to creating a hostile workplace. And then of course when another former subordinate employee sued him for the sexual assault and harassment he committed on her his actions with this subordinate employee became subject of inquiry in a court of law. And BTW that is because of the Molinari Amendment which HE signed into law with much fanfare and adulation by the Women's Right's groups as a means to prevent bosses from doing exactly what he was doing. Of course when it applied to him all those groups became suddenly silent.

It had nothing to do with Republicans, it had to do with a sexual harrassment law and a federal court and then a special prosecutor when he committed perjury and obstruction of justice.

What on earth are you talking about our interest rates have been ZERO and in Germany they are about to go NEGATIVE. And when did the Congress "authorize not paying our bills" the Treasury controls that and they work

Then why on earth would you vote for the Democrats, and BTW they took control of the government in 2007 so it's been 9 years.

 

You can attribute the success of our nation under his leadership to whatever you want. Our country did well while he was President. That is what I was referring to. Look at the bright side, at least he didn't put 2 wars and a medicare drug plan on a credit card while decreasing revenue like the last GOP President did. Clinton left a budget surplus. Which has been nearly unimaginable after the GWB administration.

 

Giving favors to subordinate workers who grant him sexual favors, threatening those who don't, and even the one you reference setting her up for a term in a federal prison in order to save his political arse and if she did not go along then publicly smearing her.

Yeah what a swell guy.

 

No the embarrassment is those who bought the Democrats lies about lying when on the other hand they support a man who walked into a federal court and then a federal grand jury and committed perjury and obstruction of justice.

 

How do you feel about Trey Gowdy altering Benghazi documents? That okay?

 

And this love for Reagan is based on fantasy made up after the fact. Reagan did some good things but was horrible in many ways.

 

And you equate that with being a paid whore?

Strawman no one said she did but his sex with her created a hostile workplace meaning the others in the office were suffering sexual harassment because they did not get the special favors and rewards the employees he was having sex with did.

Yes that is the nature of sexual harassment and assault in the workplace or when the harasser has power over the vicitim. So what you are proving is the Hillary and her "Bimbo Squad" did a great job of intimidating the victims into silence.

Thanks to Clinton and in fact had she not sucumbed to his perjury plan, which was Clinton setting her up for a term in a federal prison, he and Blumenthal were plotting how to wreck her life even more.

What a swell guy ya'll worship and put up on a pedestal.

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Diversion noted.

 

I attribute it to what caused it or simply allowed it to happen, if you choose to attribute it to something else then most likely you will not be very accurate.

In spite of him and his policies and then his going along with Republican policies.

That last GOP President was carrying out policy that Clinton failed at, policy that he signed into law making it our official policy and goal to remove Saddam Hussein and replace that government. And revenues SOARED under the Bush policies ending with a last Republican deficit of a paltry $161B. Then the Democrats took control of the Congress and in 2008 raised spending 9% (would have been higher EXCEPT for Bush) and then 18% in 2009 increasing the deficit from that last Republican deficit of that measly $161B to over $1,400B in just TWO YEARS and kept it above $1,000B for the next four. The only reason it came down was because of the sequester which he and the left BLAME of Republicans.

Gingrich and Kasich left a budget surplus, Clinton opposed and stood in their way until his political advisor told him he would lose reelection unless he signed on to them.

What was unimaginable about it. Bush came into office during a slowdown/recession. His policies helped to mitigate it's economic effects and then sent us into 52 months of full employment, rising middle class incomes and a rapidly falling deficit form the recession peak of $400B to that miniscule $161B heading to surplus again.

 

And then we were losing nearly 800,000 jobs per month when his failure of a Presidency ended. Not mention the epic failure that was the war in Iraq where we lost thousands of troops fighting against a country that posed no real threat to us and destabilizing the middle east. Don't take it from me though. Take it from the current GOP nominee for President. He's said the same of the GWB admin. The man (GWB) left office with a 22% approval rating. That's just sad. What a failure.

 

I'm sure that was one of the many times that Trump was a Democrat.

 

Not only was the Republican pursuit of Bill on sexual grounds unrelated to his role as President, it undermined that role and both humiliated the US internationally and therefore endangered it.

The Republican party under Obama has done even worse, consistently undermining the performance of a popularly elected President and serving to make the world believe half of the US population is composed of racists.

Simultaneously, they ignored real threats to the US and sat passively by while Hillary and Obama destabilized the Mideast and Obama surrounded himself with Muslim advisers. They even allowed the aggressively litigious CAIR to continue to function in the US after it was linked with terrorism through the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

Clinton didn't destroy lives, the media and the old guard Republicans did.

 

Then why isn't the Republican party pushing Newt as VP instead of wasting time trying to ruin Trump?

 

1. So you are saying women are not entitled to the money their husbands make?

2. That is not how sexual harassment works. You see, a man (or woman) in power is not allowed to have personal relations with subordinates. They are not allowed to give them promotions over other employees who are not sleeping with them. Even if the parties are consenting, it is sexual harassment because other women who didn't sleep with the president didn't get special favors, paid jobs, gifts and payments/job offers/favors from FOB. What Bill Clinton did with Monica broke the laws against sexual harassment.

3. Because he was a powerful man. They were afraid to report him. Do you think that makes their stories false?

4. Bill Clinton was a married man, a man with a past history of philandering, and in a position of running the country. He should have had the good judgement to keep it in his pants and "do the work for the American people". He ruined Monica because he should have known better. He should have been a mentor to her, not the person who victimized her.

 

We did that because the Democrat congress failed to pass any legislation that would have helped to mitigate that slowdown then recession. One we were due for after one of the longest and strongest periods of growth in our modern times.

Was Saddam and his government removed as was the goal? Yes after Clinton failed to do it. Did that turn into the main front in our war with al Qaeda, yes at their choosing and guess what we defeated them and handed that to Obama who then blew the peace.

I'm not a Trump supporter because of his misrepresentations of the Bush years and the Wars and his opposition to them. But since you two agree so much you vote for him.

And I notice you have no rebuttal for the facts about the economic history.

 

JFK with a 70% approval rating considering that JFK had more failures and very few successes.
That's probably because all of JFK's failures were kept a secret for twenty plus years.

Both Bush's (41, 43) had the highest approval ratings (90%) of any post WW ll President.

 

The persuit of him was over his perjury and obstruction of justice in a federal court. And yes it was IN his role as President that he dishonored to Oval Office by having sex with White Workers in it and using that role as President to reward them and grant them favors. It was NOT a private matter.

Clinton undermined to the role and the honor of the Presidency and humiliated the US internationally and therefore endangered it with his moral turpitude that would subject him to blackmail.

The world only believes it because the Democrats fallaciously and apprehensively paint it that way in order to gain votes, and Obama need no help in undermining his performance since he had none to begin with.

Those are the roles of the President not the Congress.

 

If Clinton didn't have an affair then republicans would have nothing to go after him for.

As it was, the mere fact that Clinton use such poor judgement as to have an affair with an intern which put our national security at risk. That would have made great blackmail material for our enemies had it not been uncovered because of Clinton's own blunders.

Blaming republicans for weak and incompetent democrats seems to be a deflection. You need to hold democrats responsible for their own behavior.

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Once again you are holding others responsible for Bill Clinton's poor judgement and mistakes.

 

Simultaneously, they ignored real threats to the US and sat passively by while Hillary and Obama destabilized the Mideast and Obama surrounded himself with Muslim advisers. They even allowed the aggressively litigious CAIR to continue to function in the US after it was linked with terrorism through the Muslim Brotherhood.
--Merwen

Only because Congress has cravenly allowed the Presidency to usurp its role.

The President, as executive, is supposed to act on the will of Congress, which legislates. If things go off keel, then the Supreme Court steps in.

I disagreed with you on the other points as well, but it is obvious your mind is set in concrete. IMO adultery is not a political issue but a personal one. Possibly voters should be provided with some inkling of what goes on since it does speak to morality, but not in the garish detail offered up by the media and etc. IMO workplace harassment was not an issue with Monica as she sought out the interactions. If others felt that impacted their positions, lawsuits to that effect might have been appropriate, but not the nation-wide focus on a scandal just because a basically decent male didn't want to discuss a private sexual matter publicly. The Republican handling of the mess, aided and abetted by the media, was repulsive and unpatriotic...as has been its dealings with Obama.

IMO it is clear that the present Republican leadership does not represent the best interests of the general public and only cares about its own political power. Trump has made it clear what he wishes to do and they do not want it. Of course they oppose him, and will continue to oppose him in every way possible, even if he actually attains the candidacy which he has already won according to their "rules." It's obvious the only rules they respect are the ones that give them what they want.

 

BS. The only reason they didn't go after Kennedy (aside from the fact that possibly he was killed too soon) was that people had a better sense of decency back then and it would not have been just Kennedy that was looked on with disfavor--so would anyone else, politician or media, that was crass enough to make politics with it.

 

It has taken him to court three times now and three times now the court has upheld the Congress.

Ahhh no that is not the function of each branch.

Not when it involves government employees and sexual harassment in the workplace it is a political and a legal issue both of which are the business of the people.

That was not the claim then nor now, do you even know what the matter was about? Although his behavior with her and other women in the White House was enough that the Democrats should have told him to pack his bags and head back to Arkansas his scandulas behaviors went FAR behind just a consensual affair. If it became of matter of the court when he was sued by another former employee for sexual assault and harassment where under laws HE signed he was compelled to give truthful testimony about any and all sexual relation with other subordinate workers. Instead he inticted Lewinsky into his little perjury conspiracy setting her up for a term in the federal prison in order to save his own political arse.

No it was certainly NOT just a private matter.

It wasn't private HE voluntarily went before the citizens and pointed his finger at the citizens and LIED THROUGH his teeth but it was his little perjury plot in a federal court that got him in trouble and then even deeper when he did the same before a federal grand jury. You do and don't want to discuss in those venues is of not matter, you SHALL under the law give truthful testimony else you have committed a crime.

The Republicans didn't handle it except for the impeachment and it will for ever be a smear on the Democrats for letting it get that far and then voting to not remove him when he BLARINGLY violated his oath of office with his perjury and obstruction of justice. But they choose to prostitute themselves over him just as they are doing now over his wife.

Then it's clear you know nothing about them as they are the ones trying to get this economy and government back on course so that you have some chance at a future.

He's won the nomination by fair rules as opposed to the Democrat establishment leaders choosing Clinton and denying all others.

 

Because Democrats including his father told him to cool it that he was endangering himself and the Presidency especially when it began to tie in with the Gambino family.

Too bad they didn't do that with Clinton and then after the impeachment was looming do like the Republicans did with Nixon and told him to resign that he had lost their support and he should not put the country through an impeachment as it will split the country.

 

Time will tell.

https://www.usa.gov/branches-of-government

If your view of the functions of the three branches of government differs from the link above, please explain what it is, according to you. I believe you do not understand the roles intended by the Constitution.

 

Who cares?

Look at your own link - Bush '43 had the highest approval rating of any President, 90% right after 9/11. Does that mean anything? No, Bush '43 will still go down in history as the second worst President ever, only obama is worse. At least so far, they both might be displaced after the next 4-8 years.

You compare Reagan and Clinton, Clinton does not come close to being as good as Reagan. Reagan led the nation out of a bad recession (worse than this so-called "great recession"), played a big role in bringing down the USSR. And Reagan had principles and morals - nobody ever claimed Reagan was even rude to women, much less raped them. Remind me again who had a "Bimbo Eruption Squad"?

Polls don't mean much.

 

Short time memory loss ? Smoking the herb is known to cause that.

Remember Special Prosecutor Kenneth Star ? It wasn't about a blow job but a blow job very likely sidetracked the Kenneth Star and kept the Clinton's and Al Gore out of prison.

It all started here.

Tomorrow a former Secret Service Agent book will be released and it's just not about whole lot of blow jobs and Hillary cussing out military officers and Secret Service agents but a White House staff so coked out... You are aware that Hillary is a coke head ? Ain't talking about Coca Cola.

I wonder if it was the Chicoms who were paying for all of that cocain ?