Abortion- "It is her body!" But is it?

Is it an insult if it's true? You support murder.

 

At best I support euthanasia. Murder has a legal definition so FACTUALLY you are either lying or mistaken

 

Yes, an abortion is legal bit yet it is also objectively murder. This isn't an argument based on legality, but on reason and logic. That's twice now you have brought up irrelevant points lol.

 

You are objectively wrong about consent. If a woman has sex, finds out she is pregnant, and goes to get an abortion... then obviously her actions demonstrate that her intent was NOT to have a child. The woman who finds out she is pregnant and starts planning a nursery is the one who was giving consent to have a child. You could ask them, so you don't have to rely on circumstantial evidence, but I can guess their honest answers would match their actions.

 

You understand murder has a legal definition. It is not a scientific or medical term but ONLY a legal one so legality is the ONLY argument. You do understand this....don't you?

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You understand murder has a legal definition. It is not a scientific or medical term but ONLY a legal one so legality is the ONLY argument. You do understand this....don't you?

 

Im objectively correct actually. By consenting to sex she is consenting to the possibility of being pregnant which is consenting to being impregnated. Therefore your argument is wrong.

This is basic logic and some of you are so determined to argue you refuse to accept blatant objective truth.

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That legal definition holds no authority over reason and logic, so it is irrelevant to the legal definition.

Its murder to take the life of someone else. By committing abortion that is exactly what you are doing. Its not her life to take. This is objective truth. You are supporting murder.

 

I have shown with logic that it is euthanasia. Some people define meat as murder (they also abandon the legal definition). Burger King is a genocide!!!!! LOL

 

More false equivalency

Killing a baby does not = euthanasia.

You are objectively incorrect and simply arguing for the sake of argument. I guess thats the morals that should be expected of those who support murder.

 

If the baby was brain dead of course it is euthanasia. No one would argue that....even you. You logic fails. LOL

 

Did I just enter the "How many third world countries can you drop in 15 seconds"-thread or what?

 

It objectively isnt euthanasia because in the vast majority of situations the baby gains conciousness at a predetermined time.

So your logic once again is non existent lol. You are objectively wrong.

 

Nope its brain dead and inside another person so that person has the authority to kill it. Your logic is crashing. lol

 

Being brain dead does not give authority to kill. Specifically in the case where conciousness is almost guaranteed at a predetermined date. My logic holds strong. You are still objectively wrong.

 

It is complicated by the fact that this brain dead human may kill the woman. If I invite you into my home that is not consent to try to kill me

 

Just to be devil's advocate...What if the woman was raped? If this is an exception it means you are slightly unprincipled because the fetus has gone from "life worthy of protection" to being a "meaningless nothing".

 

A risk she took by taking on the obligation of the baby by forcing it to be there

 

Rape is the only exception that thier logic of "it could kill her" or "self defense" would hold up to. But still does not justify murder. I was pointing out the flaw in thier justification for murder.

 

Interesting.

 

It's not murder since murder means the illegal killing of a person. A fetus is not a person, not, as the Constitution says it has to be to have rights, a BORN person.

But if YOU believe it's murder then why haven't you called the police and reported all these "murders" ?

 

So you believe a raped woman should be forced to give birth to her rapist's spawn or be charged with murder and given life in prison or the death penalty for having his get aborted.


Rape is all about power/control and forcing women.....ring a bell??

 

And how is this the child's fault?

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Because it is legal murder. So nothing would be done. What a silly nonsensical question.

But it's objectively murder nonetheless.

Im actually genuinely surprised at the amount of people who support murder on these forums

 

This is much more complex of an issue than you are trying to make it seem. Why is it up to the Constitution to define personhood? Additionally, most Americans are ancestors of zealous Bible-heads, so I am pretty sure thenauthors of the Constitution were against abortion.

Wow such cleverness!

 

Rape is only about sex. Cut the Feminist crap and leave it in the Women's rights section.

 

Well it doesn't really matter what rape is about in relation to their lack of logic. They believe that the baby is a parasite that the women is not obligated to endure, which is objectively not true seeing as by consenting to sex, she consents to the possibility of pregnancy, and thereby consents to being impregnated. At that point it is now her obligation to endure that baby till its born, and to claim self defense in order to murder it is simply not true, because it is her obligation. But in the case of rape, that is the only time their "self defense" argument actually holds up to reason and logic, so the "point" of rape has literally no place in that debate, its pointless. So my point was to simply show them that argument which they put so much emotion into is simply and objectively non logical. They then use semantics and false equivalency to further try to justify murder, its rather disappointing to see humans so quick to justify it.

But even in the case of rape, does not justify murder of an innocence.

 

She did not force it in there. It got there thru a natural biological activity. And if a woman feels she does not want to risk her life with it being in there then it is barbaric to force her to risk death.

Somehow I get the feeling that you personally will be very safe in the waiting room. LOL

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It is brain dead which is why the logic to flush it away for any reason at all is perfectly logical.