The 269-to-269 nightmare scenario:

What would happen next if Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump tie in the Electoral College


A very interesting essay on what could happen in the event of an electoral tie. Remember, the actual vote for president doesn't happen until Dec 18 when the Electoral College meets. And, there's no certainty that the electors will remain true to the results of the popular votes in their states. Just one could overturn the will of the majority of voters.


More @ http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...9-to-269-nightmare-scenario-article-1.2857343

 

Just think, the SCOTUS is down to 8 too......

 

If it is a tie Trump will win.

 

A tie puts the decision up go the House so a tie is a Trump win.

 

Yeah, and an elector from WA State has already stated he will not cast a vote for Hillary. But unless he casts a vote for Trump, this is still going to the GOP House and they are never going to pick Hillary over Trump.

If the Dems take the Senate you could end up with Kaine as VP, but it looks like the GOP is going to hold the Senate as well. So if Hillary hits 270 or more she is good, if not, it's Trump.

 

While you're likely right, (no pun intended) there is a possibility of the SC getting involved. With a panel of 8, it would be great fun to watch.

 

Is it? Would House Republicans not back Clinton? She's a neoconservative too, she's in with Wall St, etc. I gather a sizable portion would flip sides.

 

Uncle Ferd says, "Yeah...

... an' den dey could throw it to the House...

... an' get a tie there...

... an' den dey could throw it to the Supreme Court...

... an' get a tie there.

 

Simple solution... Could sell tickets too....

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It doesn't matter if that WA state elector states he won't case a vote. He doesn't have to. It's an winner-take-all state. His vote will go to Hillary no matter what he does.

 

Absolutely not. She has some very liberal beliefs and currently considered enemy #1 to the right-wingers.

 

In the case of a tie Trump wins because congress is controlled by the GOP.

 

MOOT point.

Trump has ZERO chance at 269 EV. None.

 

It's not a nightmare scenario because if this happens Trump probably wins

 

Wrong!

If he abstains, WA loses an electoral college vote. In the 2000 election Al Gore ended up with 266 rather than 267 because one of his DC electors abstained to protest of the lack of voting power in US Senate. But the faithless elector could be fined $1,000-

 

Very little difference on foreign policy. They all have the same Wall St buddies. People like McCain will be tempted.

Really their divisions come down to guns and religion. The Democrats and Republicans need to change in order to be successful under this new status quo.

In the event of a Trump victory we will definitely see the anti-war left and the religious right stranded. They each have a lot of bargaining power, it's unclear where they'll turn.

The religious right in particular just have nobody now. They dislike Trump for obvious reasons, but strongly dislike Clinton's policies on abortion, homosexuality, etc. Maybe they will reconcile their differences.

 

The religious right is solidly on the Trump Train. They are more sophisticated than you give them credit for. They dont want a preacher-in-chief right now.

 

I had figured that they wouldn't like his comments about women, sexual assault or no sexual assault. You get the feeling he is against federal funding, but not especially passionate about abortion itself. The Mormons are certainly in revolt, but not all are as religious as them.

They certainly want a President who is seen to be virtuous, and adheres to the list of Christian political dislikes: abortion, homosexuality and beyond, etc. Does Trump fit the bill? Perhaps only because there are no alternatives.

 

If it werent for evangelicals Trump wouldnt be where he is. All of their leaders support him. They had a chance to vote for the evangelical candidate (cruz) in the primary, and they went for Trump.

Evangelicals are more sophisticated than you give them credit for.

 

But wouldn't all the presidential candidates be up so the Green Party candidate could among others make a case she is the better choice than Hillary or Trump not being insane or have tons of filth in the closet so refusing them a say before Congress could be a Constitutional issue since it doesn't say only the top candidates are to be considered. Would you vote for either of these losers if anyone else was available?

 

How so? It seems like they're very lukewarm on him:

Pre-primaries


Recent
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/195251/protestant-catholic-views-clinton-trump-not-monolithic.aspx?g_source=trump%20religious&g_medium=search&g_campaign=tiles

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No denomination has an approval of him better than 40%. I'd class that as fairly poor, no?

 

http://www.prri.org/research/prri-a...residential-election-horserace-clinton-trump/

65% favor Trump. Im a Christian, and i view him as a defender of Christianity. A modern day crusader. And im certainly not alone.

 

Precisely. They favor Trump... over Clinton. He has a very low approval rating outright, they just happen to also hate his competition:

"Nearly two-thirds (65%) of white evangelical voters remain committed to supporting Trump, while only 16% say they favor Clinton. "

 

That 16% is normal. Evangelical isnt a scientific defintion. Its a very subjective term. A lot of people in liberal progressive denominations will refer to themselves as evangelicals to pollsters, when their religous teachings are actually closely aligned with the Democrat Party.

 

Are you saying that evangelicals approve of Trump himself, or that they favor Trump over Clinton?