Clinton winning popular vote

It's YOUR principle stated that if your criticize the electoral college and then run for President and win you are being a hypocrit not mine.

Still waiting for your answer.......

 

So the stockmarket is hitting record highs on all fronts. Guess you will be crediting that to Obama in the future...........

 

Not sure why you rephrased "my" principle after I've stated it plainly. You can keep waiting for your answer until you are able to explain how the question is relevant to my clearly summarized position.

 

YOU stated the opposing the Electoral college and then winning it to become President is hypocritical. Does that apply equally to all candidates or is this a selective standard required of Trump alone?

 

Tell us when the Cook Report turned into RW Propaganda again......what date did the Cook Report become Right Wing.

Note those Light Blue Words are links. Did you want to make yourself look anymore foolish than what you have already?

 

Yep. The Wall Street elite establishment is celebrating getting one of their own in office and the massive tax cuts he's giving them.

Ole Donald sure pulled the hat over those suckers who thought they were getting someone to stick it to the man, didn't he? Just like the great con man he is, he duped and conned those fools.

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You're claiming that Donald won the popular vote in 49 states any calling me foolish?

There's a sucker born every minute.

 

donny-boy only won the Popular vote in 30 states.

 

The Cook Report was the first to point it out....SO when will you show us when they became Right wing Propaganda. Or were you looking to tell us about when you were born.

 

Since there are 50 states, seems like he won. Or is a majority now not a majority?

 

It's a fact though. The combined electorate of 49 states (with the exception of California) gave Trump a 130 electoral vote and 2 million popular vote margin of victory. We can all agree that Hillary's margin of victory in California was huge but surely a victory in one state no matter how convincing can't not override the resounding rejection of Hillary's presidential bid by the combined electorate of the other 49 states.

 

California is part of the USA, bro.

 

so what-that's ten more than the lying twit won, Trump won and Hillary should hope that she isn't in prison in 6 months

 

Yeah but only 1 State..."Bro"

 

I hope she is indicted, so she becomes a martyr and a victim of GOP hate, pettyness, and vindictiveness.

and then is found not guilty.

 

This is not in dispute. Yet Trump won the constitutionally mandated electoral vote by a large margin and the combined electorate of 49 states gave him 2 million more votes than it gave Hillary. These are not mutually exclusive facts.

 

only if you ignore California.

which is highly illogical, irrational, and nothing but self-soothing silliness.

 

nah a kindly Trump will pardon the lying twit before she ends up being someone's prison (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). Its a win win. The clinton crime family will be tainted for all of history and Trump will look like a forgiving man and merciful

 

Yes, exactly, if we ignore one state - California, Trump won not just the electoral vote but the popular vote in a landslide in the other 49 states of the union.

 

and if we ignore blacks and Jews, Trump won the Electoral vote.

but why engage in such irrational nonsense?

 

Trump won the electoral vote with Jews and blacks included. In fact he won higher percentage of the minority vote than two of his less successful predecessors

It's not irrational. If you want to discuss a totally meaningless and unconstitutional "popular vote", it's important to note that Hillary lost it by a very large margin in the combined electorate of 49 states of the union. Her entire lead is based on just state - California and large as it is it can't override the will of the voters in the other 49 states.

 

As I said in another thread California saw a registered voter increase of about 1 million people. While Democrats did have over 50% of those people Republican's also had a lot of those people. So Hillary has some 2+ million new votes but how? If you include new registered voters it does not even make half of that number. Do you see where I am going with this?

Obama had the full support of his party including African Americans who loved him. So assuming that he had every democrat in 2012 vote for him then where do these 2 mil+ new voters come from? I seriously doubt over 1 million democrats chose not to vote for Obama. The democratic party and it's people love him. So it is quite obvious since you only need a signature to vote in California and since Obama encouraged illegals in CA to vote that more then 1 million of those in the state of California that voted for Hillary has to be illegals.

I have posted a link in two other thread but there is an investigation into illegals voting in California. Multiple websites are talking about it and say the number can be as high as 3 million illegals. It is also possible in some states to vote for registered dead people, change your vote and even vote two or three times as stated by both CNN and Foxnews.

Anybody that thinks Hillary actually won the popular vote is not doing their research.

 

Hill had 1.3 billion to Trump's 795 million (*Washington Post as of 10-19-16). Either are impressive sums yet, it seems, the biggest bucks didn't guarantee the presidency...rather refreshing to see the underdog prevail. I treasure the Bill of Rights and am relieved to see that the candidate with designs to restrict the constitutionally protected exercise of those rights is not the President-elect...yet. We will have to see how the EC vote goes.

For the sake of integrity and credibility Trump must be, by Trump, held to honor his word.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/campaign-finance/

 

Originally Posted by Bluesguy
So the stockmarket is hitting record highs on all fronts. Guess you will be crediting that to Obama in the future...........

Once again showing a lack of any credibity in your economic analysis.

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Yes a landslide 50% states than Clinton.

 

Are you agreeing tallying individual state totals is folly or something?

 

In her campaign, she more than doubled what Trump could spend.

Money is speech. She had 58 million dollars more and spent feverishly.

I realize some want the popular vote. Trouble with that is it puts a stop to states mattering much. A few states with huge populations could dwarf the other states. I believe states are still the best arbiters of this highly imperfect system. Those living in say Utah have interests that we in CA simply do not share. The great lakes states have concerns we on the west coast simply do not share. It would be wrong to blank out such states due to what we in CA did to the nation, create vote problems by overwhelming them with our voters.

Simply put, those who understand the EC seem to support it. They realize that for the life of this country, some states get populated far faster than other states and those weaker states need a voice.

The Electoral college also was designed for the country when states rights really did matter. Today a Maine can easily be overcome just by one western state. I think that still is not fair.