Bernie Sanders : Carrier just showed corporations how to beat Donald Trump

So true. just saw a Democratic Congresswoman on MSNBC, I believe her name was Cheri Bustos. She has the right idea, she came off as a female Jim Webb. Democrats can't recover because they will listen to Fauxhohontas Warren before they listen to Bustos. If going left loses statehouses and congressional seats, what do they do. Run farther to the left of course. Bunch of dumbasses if you ask me. Dems are now just a bunch of Malibu and Manhattan liberal lords of the ghetto whose only goal is to turn the USA into Chicago. Saving the middle class is the last thing they want to do

 

Bernie is an economic illiterate.

 

You cant make this stuff up. These lefties are actually angry that Trump saved a thousand jobs......BEFORE he even takes office. It makes sense, the expense that businesses will save by not moving because they know regulation help is coming will without a doubt save more jobs. And when its cheaper to make things and sell them here than elsewhere these other companies will be moving back. More revenue for our country isn't going to do anything except help everything that Obama has failed at for 8 freakn years.

 

Interesting quote from Turmp, from today.

"Companies are not going to leave the United States anymore without consequences. Not going to happen. It's not going to happen, I'll tell you right now"

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/01/trumps-carrier-speech-absolutely-chilling-economic-analyst-says.html

So what consequences are there going to be? A series of special exemptions and loopholes, backroom deals and soon to be former governors handing out whatever companies want?

The thought that Trump took it to this company and got them to stay is laughable. Carrier and it's parent company made trump their prison girlfriend. By playing upon the vanity of the man and his incessant need to be liked and praised, they got around regulations and laws that apply to everyone else.

 

Its interesting how dumb the DNC party actually is. They completely failed yet double down on their radical views. This means they haven't grasped that the nation is sick of them....just look at the vote by country, its a sea of red across the country. You would think they would say we might want to rethink what we are doing but they don't. Ok for us, they will never win an election again if Trump continues to save and restore jobs. It will be irrefutable proof that the problem is democrats.

 

Bernie? Sanders?


HAAAAA AHAHAHAHAHHAHHA~~~!

 

Bernie the socialist wants nothing but punishment, Trump the capitalist wants a business friendly America that encourages corporations to stay in America.

 

Trump campaigned on lower business taxes across the board and once that's implemented he won't need to make individual deals like the one with Carrier.

 

Carrier made this announcement 7 or 9 months ago and they would have wrangled a concession out of Hillary if she one. What made this one very very easy fir Trump to pull off us that thhses Carruer plants are in Imdiana and MikevOence is governor. It would have taken a bit more doing if it was Hilkary but still it woukd have been done.

This kind of crap goes on all if the time. We here in CT just lost GE HQ to Masse usettes. We stole GE from NY 25 years ago in the same way. We gave them a better deal.

It cost us tax payer money to keep them here for 25 years but I hope that we got our money back in collected taxes.

 

Yeah Carrier showed us....letting people keep their jobs in America and junk, and putting revenue back into our own system instead of foreign lands.....hrumpph Trump got owned....Doesn't he know success means giving our jobs away to other countries like Obama and forcing our fellow americans into poverty. Doesn't he know he is supposed to pay ransom to other countries in the middle of the night to help America....and golf.....he should be golfing too instead of saving jobs before he was even sworn in...how dare he....Yep you dems are right on track. How dumb can Trump be....saving jobs 800 jobs, there should be no jobs saved at all. He needs to stop following through on his promises and say things like you can keep your doctor.

 

yet you speculate on how they will be getting away with something illegal, when you know nothing of the sort. <Rule 3>

 

This case serious raises issues concerning how this administration is going to operate going forward:

- What does Trump mean when he says he's going to come down on specific corporations that make business decisions in favor of moving some manufacturing in some other country? We know that tax and labor costs are NOT the only reasons for moving manufacturing. For example, Toyota moved manufacturing to the US - and it wasn't because we have cheap labor or low taxes!! There were other reasons.

- what does the $7M bonus to Carrier mean for other companies in Indiana? This is $7,000 per employee. What does this mean for how Indiana tax rates are calculated for individual companies throughout the state? Will this continue to be a legislative issue?

- what happens when Carrier decides to leave in, say, March? Does Indiana get its tax back? Does Carrier get more from Indiana?

 

Trump campaigned on lower business taxes across the board and once that's implemented he won't need to make individual deals like the one with Carrier.

 

I am not aware of Trump having any legal authority to alter or change tax codes at this point in his career. I can only surmise that deals were promise of such, perhaps a wink and a nod, of future dealings or offers to for defense contracts for Carrier's parent company.

It is clear that Pence used his office as Governor of Indiana to buy a bit of publicity for Trump and himself. Slightly shady.

 

It's unfortunate, but this country has proven to be more interested in simple minded tweets versus legislation that takes time and effort to craft in an intelligent manner. Bernie is right. Look for companies to blackmail their way to tax free status by threatening to move their jobs. The corporate welfare is going to flow like wine.

 

Bernie just showed his economic ignorance and why we should all be breathing easier he was not elected.

 

Yep. Let's lower the corporate tax rate some more. We need to give corporations more incentives to create more Walmart jobs. Sam Walton's kids don't have enough cash.
Then my taxes can go for government assistance to Walmart's employees. Isn't capitalism great?

 

Your crystal ball tell you that?
Kindly name the companies obama stopped from moving to Mexico by giving them tax relief.

 

What if? Ok Ill play, what if Carrier stays and grows and hires more people? What if that awful thing happens?
what if....as opposed to the reality that ALLLLLL of the jobs were just about to be gone. Ill take Trumps plan of keeping jobs here...thanks. That's like saying you can be pushed off the cliff or walk away from it and asking...what if I get hurt walking away. Its ridiculous thinking. My god, you guys are actually angry that Americans jobs were saved. And yet....you ponder why Hillary lost. Fascinating.

 

Corporations don't pay tax, you the consumer does. Corporations figure in tax to their cost of production and price their good or service accordingly. The consumer ends up paying the corporate tax. Why is that so hard for liberals to grasp?

 

Yes legislation that has been written for the sole purpose of making America better for every class of we the people. Oh what what wonderful sculptures of utopia they have been drawing up for the past 50 years. Oh yes please more , more, more. Give me more intelligent legislation crafted in such an intelligent Manor. Oh I need a smoke...

 

It's Indiana tax issues not federal tax issues. Guess who the governor is. What Trump does have waiting is a Republican congress that will be passing measures to grow the economy and some of those will be tax issues which Trump can assure companies they will be instituted in due time. And of course it is clear that Pence like governors across the nation use state tax codes to attract new business, just as county commissioners and mayors. Working with Trump on federal policies they will be instituted the convince Carrier to reconsider which it did. Good job now other companies and state governments will see that with what is being done on the federal level will enable them to work on the same level and either move back jobs or create new ones. You know actually doing something to put the middle class back to work in good paying jobs instead of Obama policy of waking up each morning and thinking about it.

 

They are having vivid daydreams. Company after company has left under Obama, yet they think Hillary would have saved them despite being the poster child for maintaining the status quo.

 

so you admit that you are just talking out your butt with no evidence of any of your claims. For some reason I am not surprised at this

he probably just went in there and informed them of tax code changes and regulation trimming which he will be pushing through Congress . Change which applies to everyone in business, not just Carrier. Yet to you all that you can see are shady back room deals with winks and nods