It's over the democratic party, isn't it ?

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  1. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't understand posters who start a thread and then don't participate in it. :???:
     
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    Substitue 'alt right' for 'Dem' and you have the gist of Dispondent's subtext.
     
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    You scared. Looks like president Trump is winning over the black folks . Whow will the Dems pretend to care about ?
     
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    Only the medicinally challenged believe Trump is taking over the black folks.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not at all, you can open any history book and they will show you the history of Democrats. Democrats thrive on hate, oppression, and racism. Some things never change, you folks just hate whites now as much as you used to (and presumably still do) hate blacks. There is no subtext, its real history, the history of Democrat hate...
     
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    Yup, you can see the Dems changed their ways from social conservatives and moved into God's light. The GOP today are the ones who have been punishing the blacks since the 1950s, and that shows no sign of changing.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no evidence of your claim that all the racist Democrats ever left, its a common Democrat claim but no evidence supports it. Judging by how Democrats act, its far more likely that the haters remained and thrive. Look how well your former open Klansman Byrd did, US Senate, just like Obama and Hillary used to be. Democrats and hate go hand in hand whether its the KKK or BLM. You'd do better by not denying such obvious truths and doing something about it, like changing your name and showing the world you truly reject that sort of thing. Sadly Democrats care more about name recognition than being so openly associated with hate, racism, and oppression...
     
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    All of the evidence of our history of the last sixty years shows the social conservatives as the enemy of American progress and civil liberties.
     
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    Of course all those things were true when Obama left... And Korea is imaginary so far. But I am hoping for the best for Trump and the country, unlike party first GOP doops.
     
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    Absolutely no evidence of illegals voting, just BS GOP propaganda as usual.
     
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    Thats exactly it. We know thanks to wiki leaks that dems actually were expecting to lose horribly in 2016.

    Their only hope was crooked Hillary.


    Leftism always ends in failure.
     
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    In 2010 the Democrats tried to pass a comprehensive immigration bill with a SSID card that couldn't be faked, which would has ended the illegal problem forever, the only real solution. The wall is just GOP BS. Will not work.
     
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    So how is the prosecution coming? All investigated and absolutely nothing but a mountain of GOP garbage. That's how she lost. Ignoramuses saying there must be something to it all. Nope. And Comey of course... Enjoy the giant tax cut for the rich...
     
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    Hillary has only been investigated by her pals.

    Her pals are leaving.

    That is to say the swamp wont be able to protect her.

    Im enjoying my tax cuts, and im not wealthy.

    Then again I actually pay taxes.
     
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    Everyone pays taxes d u h... 83% of tax cuts went 2 the ridiculously bloated rich and Giant corporations. Should go to the ruined Non rich.
     
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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/?utm_term=.b3a73fd41175&ved=2ahUKEwiJvYip74PbAhXkqFkKHYQ_AQYQFjAKegQIABAB&usg=AOvVaw19CRtR2NjCE6w-JL1uXXie

    he one tax graph you really need to know



    By Ezra KleinSeptember 19, 2012

    At the heart of the debate over "the 47 percent" is an awful abuse of tax data.

    This entire conversation is the result of a (largely successful) effort to redefine the debate over taxes from "how much in taxes do you pay" to "how much in federal income taxes do you pay?" This is good framing if you want to cut taxes on the rich. It's bad framing if you want to have even a basic understanding of who pays how much in taxes.

    There's a reason some would prefer that more limited conversation. For most Americans, payroll and state and local taxes make up the majority of their tax bill. The federal income tax, by contrast, is our most progressive tax -- it's the tax we've designed to place the heaviest burden on the rich while bypassing the poor. And we've done that, again, because the working class is already paying a fairly high tax bill through payroll and state and local taxes.

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    But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

    Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

    Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

    That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

    But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

    Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:


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    As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.
     
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    The Democrats wanted a comprehensive immigration bill with a SS ID card that couldn't be faked in 2010 that would've ended this GOP scam.
     
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    Once the Dems take both chambers of Congress, then renew them in 2020 with a Dem president, a new "loyalty program" will be enacted.

    Anyone acting for or on the behalf of the Russians will be outed to the nation.
     
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    These talking points keep getting milked over and over, is there anything long lasting Trump himself has accomplished?

    1. ISIS was already on the decline when Trump took office.
    2. The DOW crashed hard at the beginning of this year.
    3. Trump is not responsible for the newfound unification of NK. Credit goes to the Chinese and South Korean governments, plus the decline conditions for NNs citizens and infrastructure.
    4. The EPA has seen over 700 experts resign since Trump took office, with Corrupt Pruitt running the agency into the ground.
    5. The retail sector lost hundreds of thousands of jobs last year (don’t put it all on Destructive Amazon). If the economy was really that good,, that many people would not be displaced in that short of time.

    The Democratic Party isn’t going to become a minority party. That’s wishful thinking. People will get sick of the ultra-conservatism like they have before.
     
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    Lolz at "everyone pays".

    If a kid throws a penny into the fountain he pays.

    I pay more than most Americans.

    Im one of those Americans that works.

    Are you American?
     
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    Like me, an American who works and pay's taxes.

    We piss off Euros, and what do we care?

    I'd certainly never care what a euro thinks, after their history.

    You can see why I'd laugh.
     
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  23. US Conservative

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    Kudo's for the self-quote but you fallaciously (and easily, like marx) fail to see that those who are capable of more will work hardest for themselves.
     
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    Warsaw New York. You probably pay more percentage wise than the richest. Silly
     
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    Can you elaborate, as a democrat?
     

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