No way Kavanaigh is getting confirmed without an FBI investigation.

So we're back to 'He said' 'She said' again? She might have been paralytic, but she obviously wouldn't admit it? But this is your territory - you know him better than me (I'm a Brit), so I'm not qualified to engage you with an informed opinion. My only reason for joining the thread was to say that I can't see how the two versions can be reconciled to the advantage of either party.

 

The same woman who can't remember details about what she gave to the WP two months ago, is the same person expected to remember details of an event 35 years ago. Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

Christine Ford, not Brett Kavanaugh is the one with serious doubt if we use our brains.

 

No. We must zero in on Kavanaugh, not Ford. He is the SC Nominee, and he is lying on issues he need not lie about.....not that I am saying it is okay to lie. If he is really the snivelling bloke I saw on TV, the bloke who cited the comments of his ten year old child as some sort of referee of almost deity, the bloke who used his kids and wife as props at the Hearing, the bloke who said he wanted the FBI in and then reneged on it, lied about not being a party teenager, lied about being a teenage boozeer, made (not too cryptic) comments in his 'diary' and Year Book...all of which invoke serious doubt about his claim to virginal angelic status, and lied about not having a 'leg up' into Yale when he clearly did.....then no, his ought be told 'thanks, but we will find someone else.' Why the heck not? Is this about getting the right man for the job or is this about using the Supreme Court to get political outcomes? Has the USA degenerated into that abyss? Really?

 

Well it's degenerated into the abyss of false rape claims. And Kavanaugh voted with Garland 80% of the time. So if Dems wanted Garland, this comes awfully close enough. You know, if we can just dismiss Ford's ramblings for what it is and get back to politics.

 

If there's one thing that puzzles me about this FBI investigation it's that there's going to be no way the incident can be proven beyond doubt at the end of it. It can't only be me who realizes this, surely?

 

No.....there was never any allegation of rape.....sexual assault, yes. But somehow you missed my point. This is no longer merely about sexual assault. It has also become a matter of personal integrity, something a SCOTUS Nominee ought never have in question. It is now beyond any doubt that his integrity/credibilty, if not destroyed, has at least flesh wounds. No-one on SCOTUS should be there as a walking (self inflicted) wounded.

 

I don't want to come across as contentious here, BL, but I'd take a guess that there wouldn't be many other nominees who don't have skeletons in their cupboards? And as this case has proved, all it needs is for one female with an agenda or a inducement-incentive to make an accusation and suddenly everything goes insane, and whether it's true or not?

 

His belligerence showed me a different side of him. If a woman acted in that way during the proceedings, she would have been deemed deranged and not fit to serve on the supreme court. If she was drunk, what effect would that have relative to an attack? He has been accused by his roommate as being a nasty drunk.

 

There are many who believe members of the New Democratic Party have another lunatic in the closet and are just dragging this thing out.

 

Yes, it does go insane. But, we need to address reality, not ignore. The 'flesh wound' to Kavanaugh is not the Ford allegation. It is now about his personal integrity/credibilty on other issues, and that is now terminal. Just find another Nominee who at least is not a snivelling, snot ingesting, liar. Again......why MUST it be Kavanaugh?

 

Dr. Ford is hardly a lunatic and is a credible witness. I agree with cerberus. No way beyond a reasonable doubt for a court, but if enough
witnesses come forth, as in the Moore case, then doubt may creep in about him. A limited investigation is not a "thorough" investigation as described by Trump. They need a free reign to go where their investigation takes them and not be stymied.

 

Moore was given the same treatment Kavanaugh is getting now

And for the same partisan political reasons

 

I wasn't referring to Dr. Ford, but personally, I have my doubts.

The FBI doesn't need to do anything here. This whole charade is so transparent, I can't understand why the New Democratic Party is committing public suicide over it's actions.

Decades of high level public service, 6 FBI background checks to secure levels that gave him access to US Nuclear Codes, and not one peep, twingle, or mention of anything along the lines he has been accused of?

How is that possible? How could the FBI run that many checks and miss a teenage drunken rapist. Explain that.

Is the FBI that inept they could miss that? Because that is what the liberal are saying. And since that is the case, why would they believe this apparent inept FBI would find anything of value today?

I just can't believe anyone is attempting to sell this snake oil to the public. It staggers the mind.

 

A number of women accused Moore, and he came across as being a pedophile. Kavanaugh's demeanor, the anger and answering questions with a question, led me to wonder what he will be like as a Justice. Also, his partisanship while testifying does not translate into 'fair and open-minded' and his refusal to support an investigation makes me wonder. Partisanship was very apparent on the Republican side also, from the beginning.

 

A background check is not a thorough investigation. Again, 80% of women who are sexually attacked do not disclose it. This is not snake oil, and we are not having a thorough investigation. Apparently, the older generation of women still support Kavanaugh and
respond as you are, probably because hardly any of them were sexually attacked. And I don't mean the 50+ year old women.

 

Do you think a Supreme Court Justice will face anything like the circus the Nation saw members of the New Democratic Party pulled?

This "temperament" things is ludicrous. Do you think an attorney presenting a case before the SCOTUS is going to call Judge Kavanaugh evil? Do you think they are going to try to destroy him, his wife, and his children?

Do you think they are going to argue the SCOTUS should rule in their favor because Judge Kavanaugh is a drunken beer drinking fart machine?

Do people think?

 

This "don't disclose" meme is pathetically convenient. How absurd. Dr. Ford doesn't have **** to tell about this event.

Again, how is it possible to have passed 6 background checks, and not one peep? Don't run from that question.

How is it possible?

So, how long you do think should allowed to conduct a "thorough" investigation? I'm not interested in a dodge to the question like "as long as it takes". How long? Two weeks? Six Weeks" Six Months?

 

Dont expect Kavanaugh to lick democrat hands after what he is going through

I hope he sticks it to the left every day for the next 40 years

 

No need to be greedy. 30 years will do.

 

Explain how Ford qualifies as credible, when she cannot give a date, an address, or even tell how she got to the scene of the incident in question to begin with.

 

And the word of the other has the weight of the evidence including contemporaneous notes on his side white the one has presented nothing.

 

She cant name the person who drove her home because that person would be her Achilles heel

 

Why should he be denied it because of uncorroborated incredulous last minute accusations?

 

She was asked did she take the polygraph on the same day as her grandmothers funeral. She could remember if it was on that day or the next.

WHAT???

 

The only integrity issues here are those of the Senate Democrats and Ford's lawyers. These false allegations do not tarnish Judge Kavanaugh's AT ALL.