Manafort lied after pleading guilty, Mueller's team says

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  1. Ddyad

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    The more the merrier. :)
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, once again, Show me any connection between the Clintons, a Clinton ally, or anyone really, to the Republican controlled state of Utahs Nuclear Energy Regulator.

    Anything. ANyone. Something.

    Constantly referring to the Clintons and that same resource that proves nothing regarding my question only shows your lack of evidence to my question.

    Show me a connection, Direct or even 1 degree of seperation between this regulator and the Clintons and we can talk, otherwise, you are simply showing that you can't make said connection.
     
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    What is the difference between a corrupt establishment Democrat and a corrupt establishment Republican?
    The number of extra fingers on their offspring? ;-)

    “In his Washington Post column, Dana Milbank (a friend!) wrote that “if Washington's political culture gets any more incestuous, our children are going to be born with extra fingers’.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 213.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ....so that's a no then??

    You keep avoiding my questions so I don't feel your participating in this with good faith.
     
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  5. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This has nothing to do with the state of Utah. It has to do with the federal approval of the deal by the Clinton state department and the $145M donations to the Clinton foundation and approval by CFIUS.
     
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    Double Standard. Hillary is above the law despite her taking money in a "pay for play" while she was SoS. Disgusting what the Democrats have done and got away with.
     
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    Then you have no idea how the approval actually worked.

    The State of Utahs Nuclear Regulator body HAS to approve the sale, or it wouldn't have gone through.

    How do you not grasp this simple fact?
     
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    Once The Big Bribe was exposed everyone involved should have been investigated. That is not my job or you job.
    It was the DOJ/FBI/WXYZ's job. You should be wondering why these agencies refuse to do their job.

    Have we no grand juries?
     
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    I have answered all your questions. I am sorry that the answers don't please you. :)
     
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    Yes, we know that the federal regulators have been corrupted.
    Why would anyone assume that the state regulators involved in such a corrupt criminal scheme are not corrupt?

    Why hasn't everyone involved been thoroughly investigated? The fish rots from the head.

    “Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.”
    THE HILL, FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow
    BY JOHN SOLOMON AND ALISON SPANN - 10/17/17.
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration
     
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    I don't have to worry because it wasn't a decision that can be only made by one person. And to think that random regulators in Utah of all places are on the Clinton Dole without ANYONE finding out is ludicrous at best.

    You have not answered anything. Your answers are not actually answers, merely distractions. If your going to make claims, you should be able to back them up in some capacity.
     
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    I’ve grasped the facts completely. The Clinton apologists have all the excuses.
     
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    So the story is "Manafort lied"......no details or other information? Geez, this Mueller investigation gets more and more ridiculous as time passes.....
     
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    Follow the money. Investigate. Take the preliminary evidence to a GJ and indict.

    You’re claiming that all those steps were done and because the state of Utah signed off the investigation was halted ??
     
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    He lied about something that wasn’t a crime. There would be no crime without the investigation.
     
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    True. I have yet to hear what is being investigated. Rosenstein stated no votes were changed. There is no evidence of any vote tampering.

    Normal investigations begin with a crime committed. It can be easily described and evidence can be presented. Where is that here? They want to have an investigation first and then fill in the blanks later. That is not how it works.
     
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    The evidence of just how crooked the Uranium One deal was is overwhelming and obvious to anyone.

    “Campbell’s lawyer, Victoria Toensing, who has not previously identified her client, said despite Campbell telling the government ”how corrupt the company was,” Rosatom still got permission to buy Uranium One.”
    REUTERS, Exclusive: Secret witness in Senate Clinton probe is ex-lobbyist for Russian firm, By Joel Schectman, NOVEMBER 16, 2017.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...is-ex-lobbyist-for-russian-firm-idUSKBN1DG1SB
     
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    This is what these investigations degenerate into. The same thing happened to Scooter Libby who was convicted of failing to accurately remember something that had happened two years prior concerning something which was not a crime. Bush 43 for some reason commuted his sentence but did not pardon him.

    It’s amusing to watch the D’s attempting to attach significance. OMG - all this lying. It’s the Russians.
     
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    I'm saying that if a Republican controlled: Presidency, Senate, House, AG and DOJ don't see enough evidence to bring a grand jury, and nobody, not even the reports like the ones linked by Ddayad in this thread, mentions the Utah Regulators who signed off on this deal (which wouldn't have happened had they not, as it's their State Jurisdiction, controlled by Republicans since the 70s), you would think that maybe there isn't much to it??

    All I've asked is for some link between them. Some shred of Evidence beyond "Clinton got paid money by Russia" to justify this particular hole in the theory.

    That neither of you can come up with it and constantly ignore, sidestep, and then switch tactics to the "well they should be investigated because some people completely unconnected to the deal think it was corruption by Hillary" is telling.



    Uh huh. And yet Trump didn't ask Sessions to investigate. Hrm. I wonder why...
     
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    There is renewed interest in investigation of the Clinton Foundation. When elected Trump stated (although not his call) that “he” would not go after Hillary.

    The lack of indictment is no proof of innocence. The corruption of Hillary and Bill Clinton is legendary. Read Jarret’s book if you dare.
     
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    Oh don't get me wrong. They are as corrupt as it gets. That much is obvious.

    I just don't believe this deal was part of that.
     
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    It doesn't matter if Mueller is a Republican or ot. The Deep States loyalty is towards those who have power, influence, and the financial wherewithal to create both. While the majority are Democrats there are also corrupt Republicans. Had anyone but Donald Trump won there would have been another RINO or Hillary Clinton in his place. The electorate showed great wisdom.
     
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    The electorate voted for the candidate who prioritized the welfare of US citizens first.
     
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    And they're pretending that Canada isn't a foreign country. Canada, I believe, can ship whatever they want wherever they want.
     
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    You want to ignore crimes committed by righties. You must be a rightie.
     

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