Trump's fans know they have lost

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. AZ.

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    The stock market crash of 2008 occurred on September 29, 2008. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 777.68 points in intra-day trading. Until 2018, it was the largest point drop in history. It plummeted because Congress rejected the bank bailout bill.Nov 6, 2018
     
  2. rahl

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    you of course know this is false.
     
  3. kriman

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    I went back and looked. I could not find it. I guess you will have to show me where you refuted it.
     
  4. rahl

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    Nope. You know it's been refuted. I gave you the congressional voting record from 2001-2007 showing republicans killed every bill attempting to address the impending economic collapse.
     
  5. kriman

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    I remember you saying once before that the president controlled everything. So now the congress controls everything. That means the economic collapse from 2007 to 2011 was due to the democratic congress.
     
  6. Sandy Shanks

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    You refuse to deal with the issues regarding our President.

    This has nothing to do with border security. Trump declared a national emergency for the expressed purpose of going around Congress to get funding for his wall. Trump even said so. Because Congress denied those funds twice and they have sole power of the purse, that is an attack on our Constitution.

    That is the point. If you can't see that, that makes you a typical, gullible Trump fan who believes every piece of B.S. Trump throws out there.

    Instead, you focus on me. That is a sure sign of weakness.

    Trump is a very bad President. His own followers can't openly support him. They go into hiding.
     
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    Talk about off topic, geez. Do you two realize how foolish you look?

    Two Trump supporters who don't want to talk about Trump.

    Trump is a very bad President. His own followers can't openly support him. They go into hiding.
     
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    Did you go back and see where rahl started this when he was comparing the Trump's economy to Obama's.

    It appears that you are the one looking foolish.

    By the way. If you do not want me to respond to one of your threads, just let me know. Not a problem.
     
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    refuted this already
     
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    uh, you understand that I'm not a trump supporter right?
     
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    Oh come out of the closet already. I bet you have a MAGA hat tucked away for times when no one else is around.
     
  12. kriman

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    Can't find that one either.
     
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    He probably checks under his bed and in the closet for them before going to sleep. :)
     
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    If you understood economics you would know that it is absolutely true. Too funny.
     
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    The source is the Congress of the United States. They have given Trump the power. I keep repeating the truth.
     
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  16. Sandy Shanks

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    The title of this thread is "Trump's fans know they have lost." This thread, which I started, concerns issues about Trump, and I and others have been discussing Trump's decisions, statements, and tweets. You and Rahl, another Trump fan, have purposely attempted to divert attention from these issues.

    This is intentional on your part because you wish to avoid today's issues concerning Trump. That's obvious.

    I welcome your views that are on topic. This thread is not about Obama vs. Trump. Obama hasn't been our President for two years. If you two want to talk about the economy and Obama, start your own thread. This one is about Trump and his fans.

    The interesting thing is, Trump's fans can't defend him. They want to change the subject.

    Like you and Rahl.
     
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    I don't believe it. You act like one. You keep trying to change the subject and you avoid all issues regarding Trump. Read the title of this thread.

    If you really want to talk about the economy, fine, start your own thread.
     
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    "WASHINGTON (CNN)Americans give the nation's economy glowing reviews in a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS, and Donald Trump's approval rating may be reaping the benefits."

    "A majority give the President positive reviews for his handling of the nation's economy (51% approve), and his overall approval rating has ticked up to 42% in the new poll. The 51% who say they disapprove of the President's job performance overall represent the lowest share to do so in CNN polling since the start of his presidency."

    "Trump's 42% approval rating at this point in his presidency puts him near the bottom of the list of modern elected presidents, between President Bill Clinton in 1995 (44%) and President Ronald Reagan in 1983 (41%). Both were re-elected to second terms."

    There are a few things to learn about this poll. There are roughly 40% of Americans who represent Trump's base. Trump could be found guilty of murdering Mother Theresa, and these Americans would still support him.

    Our economy is on fire, and a majority of Americans are better off than they were two years ago. Generally speaking, the President gets credit for this even though, historically, Presidents rarely have any direct effect on the economy, and that is certainly true in Trump's case.

    The fact that Trump receives only 42% approval for a raging economy with full employment is not a credit to the President.

    The public also breaks sharply negative over the President's handling of immigration. Overall, 58% disapprove and 39% approve.

    55% were opposed to the President's veto of the emergency declaration resolution passed by Congress. Just 35% say he should have used his veto power in this case.

    White college educated respondents: 40% approve, 55% disapprove.

    White, non-college educated respondents: 54% approve, 39% disapprove
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/18/politics/cnn-poll-trump-economy-tech/index.html
     
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    You have no idea what my motives are. Don't make ignorant assumptions. The thread was already off subject. rahl made a comment that I considered wrong and I commented on it.
     
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    You of course know it's been refuted in several threads you and I have engaged in this discussion.
     
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    You've been schooled repeatedly on economics, and pretty much every other topic you've engaged in. You've been given the data showing your position is completely wrong.
     
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    so you can't read. got it.

    the topic changed to the economy, in this thread. So I'm talking about it.
     
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    Claiming it has been refuted does not make it refuted.
     
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    No one has shown that the Trump economic policies do not result in superior growth than Obamanomics. Which policy results in greater growth - small business income tax rate of 39% or 25% ??? Nobody has the intellectual honesty to answer that.
     
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    So what ???
     

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