US posts largest budget deficit on record in February

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your first claim is not supported - essentially touting a narrative that you have heard somewhere but do not really know if it is true or not.

    Your second claim is correct - A congress dominated by Red - with a Red President on office - raised spending.

    This should surprise no one. Red and Big Deficits go hand in hand.
     
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    How did you reach your conclusion?

    providing for the common defense is not providing for the common Offense or general warfare.
     
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    Our Commerce Clause is the socialism of the law; obey the Law, right wingers.
     
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    There is nothing good about socialism

    Building infastructure is not socialism

    If libs want to say we cant have public roads unless we award a guranteed minimum income to every lazy welfare bum in the country then I support privitzing all the roads

    And bridges
     
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    Dont let you trump deranged syndrom totally consume you

    He is not a red and neither is the majority of congress
     
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    The common defense is just that

    Defense for everyone

    Welfare is an income redistribution scheme that benefits some at the expense of others
     
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    I have no idea what you are trying to say
     
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    We agree again. We voters are dumb enough to reward lawmakers for overspending. Shame on us.
     
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    special pleading by glossing over the common defense. how are alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; common defense items?

    Government is about income redistribution; Congress is delegated the Power to Tax for that purpose.
     
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    lousy capitalists and Good national socialists, never get it.
     
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    Yes, how many month of continuous growth under his economy was there again?
     
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    You dont think fighting muslim terror against the United States is part of the common defense?

    I do
     
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    Course cutting back on military spending, corporate subsidies and tax breaks for the rich, might also be a solution but conservatives would never agree to that.

    As for cutting imports from China, are you suggesting that the free market doesn't work and requires protection from its own domestic consumer demands?
     
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    Of course building infrastructure is done via socialism. How can you say "There is nothing good about Socialism" when you don't know what the word means ? Seriously.

    Wealth Redistribution = Socialism. Where do you think the money comes from to build roads, bridges and so on - pay police - pay the military. ? Santa ?

    Taxes = wealth redistribution = Socialism. The whole point of socialism is redistributing wealth for the "Collective" good.
     
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    Red controlled both houses of Congress for the last two budgets = were the majority in both houses. It is also a fact the President was Red.

    Don't let reality get in the way of your fantasy false narrative though ... carry on.
     
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    The common defense makes it a State security issue; muster the militia until we have no security problems in our free States.
     
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    special pleading to the point of appealing to ignorance; is what the right wing is best at.
     
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    This happens on both the Left and the Right - unfortunately. That it happens so often is sad sad commentary on the human condition.

    We are raising a generation of ignorant brainwashed sheep. 12 years of school and we manage not to teach the basics of Philosophy - Logic, Logical Fallacy, what constitutes a valid argument, Critical Thinking.

    We teach kids to Obey and Follow. We teach then "what to think" not how to think.

    I have had many discussions with Teachers on this topic. Many - being on the front lines - are more disgusted than I am. They are highly restricted. Many others however typify what one Teacher said to me - "Well - we don't want kids arguing with us" ... not joking.
     
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    in my experience, Only the Right Wing, never gets it.
     
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    The following are recent posts to me from one a Left wing poster.
    Note that the poster does not even state what it is that he is raging about - making no attempt to address my comments - just ad hom and name calling. By the reaction you would think I was saying bad things about his mother or some such thing.

    So what was this Crazy "Bovine Excrement" ? My claim was that Mueller was given special powers - powers which allow his office to violate civil liberties.
     
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    what are you arguing about?
     
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    You made the claim "Only the right wing does not get it" ... in reference to appealing to ignorance and/or disingenuous denial - to the point of claiming water is not wet.

    The left wing poster that I quoted in my previous post refutes this claim. The left will engage in fallacious nonsense as well.
     
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    simply complaining about ad hominems is not the same thing as appealing to willful blindness, which is a moral turpitude.
     
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    Appealing to willful blindness is exactly what the poster is doing. The poster is pretending not to understand - and is in full on denial of the simple fact that the Special Prosecutor is given special powers - including the ability to violate civil liberties in ways that are not normally allowed.

    This is on the level of denying that water is wet.
     
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    Congress is specifically delegated the Power to prosecute political crimes.
     

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