Do you think the slaves were owed reparations?

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Were those enslaved owed reparations?

  1. Yes, the enslaved were owed reparations, for that enslavement.

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  2. Yes, the enslaved were owed reparations, AND, we as a nation owe their descendents a fair shake.

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  3. No, we didnt owe the enslaved anything for their FORCED ordeal.

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  4. No, we didnt owe the enslaved anything, and their descendents are lucky we dont send them packing.

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  1. Knightowl32

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    Explain the Trans Sahara slave trade and the Barbary coast slave trade.

    I will be waiting.
     
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    How many people born in 1866 or before are still alive? They were the slaves, no one else should get anything.
     
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    what about, one thousand a month, simply for the sake of redress of grievances?
     
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    Unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed can enable Labor to stay up to date on market based demand and supply.
     
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    Reparations for Jim Crow discrimination, as opposed to slavery, could be justified.
    Black Americans were also targeted and severely damaged by many other government policies throughout the 20th century that continue to inflict great harm on them.
     
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    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the freed slaves were owed compensation. We violated every civil right they had.
     
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    I just want to say, no one learns that in any classroom, not the ones I've been in anyway. People like to cherry pick facts to put themselves on the right side of history.

    The Europeans knew exactly what they were doing, and were very good at it. It is disgusting that someone would try to blame the Africans for being enslaved. That is what I learned in my history classes in the south eastern US.
     
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    The Europeans didn't hunt the slaves.
    africans were used as slaves long before there was an European influence.
     
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    Explain the Trans Sahara slave trade and the Barbary coast slave trade.

    Thanks
     
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    And turn a whole generation of people into welfare bums.
     
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    They won't acknowledge that. They cannot admit the facts.

    White people (Europe) bad.

    Black people the perpetual victim of white capitalists.

    Let them try to explain the Trans Sahara slave trade or the Barbary coast slave trade.

    They will avoid all of it.
     
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    I think those who lived & endured slavery personally, were entitled to reparations. I am saddened by the fact that the law enabling that was ignored. I don't feel descendants to those former slaves are owed reparations, because they never experienced the nightmare themselves, & they have access to opportunities never available to their ancestors. I AM sensitive to the fact that blacks in America still face some severe racist-based challenges, but they've come a long way since Rosa Parks, and I'm hopeful for their continued success.
     
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    Thats a very conservative estimate.

    $97 Trillion is the agreed total amongst the subscribers. Be it Dems or Reps it matters not as it was WHITE FOLK who enslaved blacks not dems or reps. So white folk should pay. Anybody with white parents should be the ones to pay, or rather not receive a payment from the treasury.

    can ipose a hypothetical? What would you do if it was passed by law that $97 Trillion was to be paid to descendants of slavery in the Americas?
     
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    People have been enslaving and conquering each other for ever, yes. The Europeans were the ones who introduced commercialized slavery to west Africa and fueled the Atlantic slave trade.
     
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    that was refreshing. it gets really tiresome bothering to correct the torrent of misinformation and outright lies where africa is concerned. most of the time iknow exactly how to respond but then there will be another ignorant poster making the exact same misinformed opinions the next page. its like deleting spam mail from your emails, never ending lol.

    thank you for the time to make an informative and honest read
     
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    So you want to institute a tax based on skin color?

    What if you are "white folk" and have no ancestors that owned slaves?
     
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    What if the slavemaster was black.
     
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    I wonder if Obama would have to pay?
     
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    I think his white half would have to pay his black half, and the government would take out 20% in taxes.
     
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    Well, not a lot had been written by Black Africans about Black Slavery (or anything else) because they didn't have indigenous written language. Kind of a draw-back. Nevertheless, if you seriously dispute the well-known FACT that Black African tribes had been practicing slavery among those of their own race for thousands of years before Europeans and Middle-Easterners started buying them, I could hope that at least you would provide a LINK to your information.

    Here, I'll provide an opener, with something as simple as a wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa .... Oh, I know... it's not the same as majoring in "Black Studies" at some liberal arts college for year after year, but at least it could provide you with some basics. You may not like it, but the brutal truth is that your "People" taught the rest of the world how best to acquire, use, and SELL slaves -- although usually they were simply seized in the endless series of warring raids that were especially prevalent in Sub-Saharan Africa going back to the 'dawn of time'....

    In fact, Black Africans and their European (and American) customers had such a thriving business that the phenomenon of the "Slave Coast" of West Africa was very well known, and very big business for a very long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_Coast_of_West_Africa

    Now... if you want to carry on with your "World History Lesson", help yourself....
     
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    I'd wonder what I would do if space aliens attacked.
     
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    Then what about the Irish, the Chinese, the Native Americans, and all the millions more who feel they have been wronged by the way things were back in the old, old days? We could be an entire country of victims, and all get our fair share of reparations of some sort.
     
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    You really think socialists would allow freedom of speech? The little up ans coming socialists being taught at our colleges and universities don't even tolerate free speech. Once they control government, they will decide what you or i are allowed to say, do, think or feel.
     
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    its defo got that end of the world type scenario, iagree
     
  25. danielpalos

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    or stock market venture capitalists.

    anyone can make up any story they want.
     
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