Active Shooter Situation In El Paso, TX, Police Have 'Reports Of Multiple Shooters'

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  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Come on, keep up, checkout Xenamnes' posts. He claims you can't compare. Tut tut. Stick to guns in the US, The Land of the Free (free to murder your schoolmates and fellow shoppers by the looks of it).
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Brits have guns and have access to guns. Americans have guns and have access to guns.

    Why can't Americans handle them?

    If in doubt, see my YouTube link a few posts up.
     
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    The united states possesses a far larger population than any individual member of the united kingdom. It also possesses far more unregistered firearms than the entire united kingdom, and a thriving firearm-related culture devoted to the legal use of such. The united states also possesses a far greater number of violent criminals and mentally deranged individuals roaming free in society, simply because it does not have anywhere to actually put all of them, not the ability to remove them from the general population for the duration of their natural lives.

    The united states also possesses a strong distrust of government and views it as the cause of many problems, while the individual members of the united kingdom view government as the answer to all problems, and regards it in much the same way a child regards a parent.

    The cultures are simply vastly different from one another, with no comparable similarities.
     
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    Distrust of Government=Paranoid Nut jobs
     
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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So why do these gun debates default to crime/knife rates between America (New York) v UK (London)?

    I view the government as the answer to problems? What on earth are you on about, UK government couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery.
     
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    Hardly....You no doubt have never been there....
     
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    Such as those who oppose Donald Trump, the president of the united states and a current member of the federal government?
     
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    Why do so many individuals from foreign nation see fit to try and tell the united states what it needs to do? Why can they not simply refrain, and just let the country burn to the ground and experience a massive depopulating event from its own machinations?

    The rest of the world would be better off if the population of the united states were to become extinct.
     
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    Now compare the US's most dangerous cities with London.
    New York's low homicide rate just proves the effectiveness of their strict gun reg's.
    Every time you dips#its compare London to NY you prove the opposite of what you think you are proving.
    Compare capital cities and you find a murder rate nearly 4 times higher in Washington.
    Now do Chicago or better still St Louis.

    London homocide rate is 3.5 per 100k and has the 2nd highest in the UK
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    New York is not even top 20.
     
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    Because America see's fit to feel they can tell others in the world how they should be living. Also, many have relatives and descendants in America and vice versa. The current flavour of planet earth (ignoring climate change) is globalisation.
     
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    Tut tut, no comparing !!!!! Come on, stick to your standards.

    Compare gun deaths!! You guys kill more in a day than the Brits kill per year!!!!!

    Your police kill more in one year then the British police have killed in a century!!!!

    American gun stats are horrific, the sooner it's clamped down on the better.
     
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    2019 rates look even worse for the US.
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    You, too, sound consumed with hate -- for the borders, the sovereignty, and the citizen taxpayers of the United States of America!

    Mind if I ask you if you're a member of the ACLU?

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    A little. I prefer this one

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    I share with you great regard and respect for Great Britain, and the people of the United Kingdom. No disagreement there at all....
     
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    Except for the fact those same firearm-related restrictions were in place when the city of New York was at its most violent. What changed it was the mayor at the time adopting a tough on crime approach to doing business, and letting the public know that even minor criminal misbehavior would not be tolerated.

    All of which are cities that are under the direct control of the liberal left-wing democrat party. Such should tell everyone something with regard to crime and other violence.
     
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    Such simply means the united states has more more individuals that need killing than the nation of Britain.

    Such is because the law enforcement officers in the united states are held to unacceptably low standards of conduct that other nations simply would not tolerate in their own law enforcement. What would become of a law enforcement officer in the nation of Britain who allowed one of their duty weapons to go missing because they laid it down and simply forgot about it? In the united states such an officer is rarely if ever disciplined, and generally is simply issued a new duty weapon.

    Then the people of the united states would simply find or otherwise develop new ways of killing themselves off. It is a violent, bloodthirsty nation.
     
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    Nice deflection.
    Is that intended to hide your ignorance or just partisan hack bitchery?
     
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    Along with strict enforcement of the tight gun regulations.
     
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    Wan/Bever (chuckle) are hardly breaking new ground with their observation that "the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent". Nor do they all set their hair on fire.

    " And there is no single personality profile that can reliably predict who will resort to gun violence.' More nonsense. Parents have turned in their own children, school teachers, neighbors and friends have also warned of dangerous, mostly young men.

    If these people can predict future bad behavior there is no real reason why rained psychologists like Wan/Bever can't, unless their 'reliability' factor has to be 100% accurate- an impossibility- but enough to take a look at someone.
     
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    Correct only in the sense that actual enforcement is what is needed. What is had now is not enforcement in any sense of the word. When a convicted felon can be found in possession of a firearm, but is ultimately let go with the equivalent of a slap on the wrist, that is not enforcement. Yet that is what the situation currently is in the united states, and it is the rule rather than the exception.

    All of these firearm-related restrictions in place in the united states, and yet so many continually whine about needing more and more firearm-related restrictions to address the fact they are not enforcing what they already have.
     
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    You realize that your claims are nonsense?
     
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    Well that's rather alarming. Why do you think that is the case?
     
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    That's exactly right, and cities like Chicago do not enforce the existing laws, then surprise, surprise, we find out that the gangs own the politicians.

    It's all the most vile of theater:
    - Networks jump on because it drives rating, so they drench us in violence porn until ratings start to dip.
    - The Left-wing politicians jump on because their contributions spike, so they grab as much air time as they can, saying the most provocative things possible, in interviews with the networks that are also flogging the tragedy for as much lucre as they can squeeze out of it.
    - Researchers have a strong consensus that new policies regarding firearms will have zero effect on future mass shootings.
    - Of all the scholar research done regarding mass shootings, the greatest agreement is that there has not been enough research to develop effective prevention policies and legislation, yet.
    - Facilities that implement safety measures and procedures ignore the factors that lead to the crime in the first place. One exception are the new procedures in school shootings with locking steel or solid core doors (until recently the doors could not be locked from the inside due to fire life-safety concerns) and drills that teach students to flatten on the floor below the window level, and they stay in place even if the fire alarm is activated.
    - Shooters do not act spontaneously, they plan and familiarize themselves with the targeted location, most measures can be adapted to and overcome. For example, the recent Gilroy Garlic Festival shooter entered the event through a creek and wooded area to avoid the metal detectors that were placed at the gate.

    Understanding the ghoulish fraud that is orchestrated between the Fake News Media and these vile Left-Wing politicians and the massive financial windfalls they generate on these tragedies is important for a rational healthy response.
     
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