Lindsey Graham to tell Nancy Pelosi that Senate will not impeach Trump

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the division of powers is tricky bu so far Trump doesn't appear to have done anything seriously wrong, though there are many complaints about his bombastic attitude, tweets, etc.

    Will the electorate go with Trump or with Adam Schiff and his constant demands for impeachment. I believe the electorate will stuck with Trump, if only because there is really no viable alternative,
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    It began with his phoney four-page Mueller report summary and has continued with his working with Giuliani on pressuring foreign leaders.
     
  3. LangleyMan

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    He solicited a foreign leader to help him damage a U.S. political opponent. Even the attempt is a felony.
     
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    Yeah, but come up with something that's true.
     
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    That’s election interference at the minimum, potentially collusion.
    If military aid was even implied in that conversation or by previous communications it becomes bribery. Since then we are sure he has committed obstruction and depending how you view it conspiracy.

    All five are impeachable offenses.
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    It was so biased, Mueller was moved to make a public statement.
     
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    And what did he say? He said that Barr's summary was correct.
     
  8. LangleyMan

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    He said Barr left out important information.
     
  9. Thought Criminal

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    So important that he agreed that Barr's assessment was correct.
     
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    that's very true i just don't know if he should have been kicked out for it
     
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    He attempted to find out if there was any truth to the rumors he heard about corruption involving American citizens. not a felony unless you know for a fact that his intent was to damage Biden for the 2020 election
     
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    Not Lindsey's call. Constitutionally, he has to proceed to a Senate trial upon receipt of the House articles of impeachment. McConnell would receive the articles and call Chief Justice Roberts to preside.
     
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    Oh, screw it, this is going to be another case of where Trump actually comes out and does something in plain view and then denies it, and his minions go along with that, fine, go shoot somebody else on 5th avenue in plain vies of hundreds of witnesses. You didn't do it, and anybody who says you did is just trying to overthrow the USA.

    Trumpers are a TRIP
     
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  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Oh bloody.....ok, fine,,,, believe that if you want... and I hear Trump has this really nice bridge for sale in Brooklyn
     
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    I'm not a trumper! I'm just not a 2016 sore loser with TDS.
     
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    Brooklyn? No thanks no interested in anyplace east of the Rockies and south of the Mason Dixon line.
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Who did you vote for in 2016 and who are you planning on voting for in 2020?
     
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  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    But that's great, he'll move it to anywhere you like
     
  19. Robert E Allen

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    I wrote in Ben Carson

    I don't know yet. Not Trump and none of the Democrats.
     
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    No thanks
     
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    Barr said Trump was exonerated when in fact Mueller said he was not.

    Mueller wrote in his conclusion to Part 2 of his report:

    "Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."
     
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    They could have censured him.
     
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    They would rather jettison the US Constitution then carry out their oath of office. Sad.
     
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    Trump was pressing Zelensky to announce the Ukraine is investigating Biden. That's what he wanted--an "investigation" he could use to smear Biden. Trump wanted to make sure the investigation was announced.
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So in actuality you voted for Trump, and will again

    And that makes you a Trumper, own it
     

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