Nunes Aide Is Leaking the Ukraine Whistleblower’s Name, Sources Say

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, thats WRONG.

    The money was approved by Congress, the president doesn't have a legal right to "hold" the money

    So since their "oligarchs" are corrupt, then Im sure you agree that Rudy and his two Ukrainian friends arrested for Campaign finance violations were putting money in Trumps back pocket then right ?
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it wasn't "BORN" classified. You have been arguing that since the beginning of this investigation and you have been shown MULTIPLE times that thats just WRONG.

    Read the report. It very CLEARLY states that their classifications CHANGED after they were received by Clinton.

    You think Trumps State Department would let her go if they had the good s on her ? This was TRUMPS State Department who did this investigation
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think Trumps State Department is lying about Clinton ?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's part of the quid.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you not watch the video of Comey testifying? It's all dealt with in very straightforward terms where none of this debate is even necessary.
     
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    1) It doesn't have to be, in order for to be corrupt.

    2) It could be a part in that it shows connections.
     
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    Comey was testifying as to what they had investigated to that point. This investigation was a much deeper, AND was based on the legal opinions of the evidence. What Gowdy was asking were question about what happened, and not about the legality of each of those things. He starts off by trying to use legal definitions to define motives, but Comey answers to the definition, not the motive or intent. Comey clearly stated that he and the FBI legal counsel said that they could not prosecute because they could not determine motive or intent at the time. This latest investigation showed motive, and also showed intent which was that there were emails that were classified later, and that their were emails transfered that were determined by an OCA but not Clinton.
     
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    So you have been on these very boards saying that the dems are evil because they are "investigating Trump and looking for a crime", yet now claim that thats OK because its a dem now ?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The legality? Lying to Congress is illegal.

    You're fruitlessly trying to defend the indefensible. You should move on.
     
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    Yes the information in the emails was BORN classified as those who get such security clearances are schooled, an email does not have to be marked classified for the information in it to be classified and it is under investigation.


    "On January 22, 2009, the day after she was sworn into office, she signed a document titled “Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement,” which stated the following: I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of classified information by me could cause damage or irreparable injury to the United States or could be used to advantage by a foreign nation. I have been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified information by me may constitute a violation or violations, of U.S. criminal laws.36 Importantly, the document instructed Clinton that classified material may not always be marked as classified on the face of the documents, but that it would still be considered classified information. Thus, she was bound by law to protect it in a secure place, not in her home."

    Jarrett, Gregg. The Russia Hoax (p. 10). Broadside e-books. Kindle Edition.
     
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    Comey testified they did not even look into motive and intent is not required under the law. It was gross negligence which is a violation of the law. Comey came to his specious determination before Clinton was even interviewed.
     
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    Eric Ciaramella is no Whistle Blower.

    (1) He went to Schiff's Office first and broke the law sharing Classified Material. He was required to go to the IG/DoJ first.
    (2) A CIA Whistle Blower is supposed to report on the Intelligence agencies, not on the President of the United States. The Whistle Blower laws do not cover him.
    (3) He previously leaked to the Press.
    (4) His best friend works for Schiff
    (5) He worked closely with Biden, Brennan, and other high level Democrats and was invited to events by these people.​

    This is a Democratic Party operative abusing the Whistle Blower law and for some reason getting away with it. The Democrats DO NOT want him under oath publicly. Why is that? I have a feeling the DNC / Clintons may be thinking on suiciding this guy. He should be scared of them. The Republicans want him alive and well to testify... and then to go straight to Leavenworth for being a traitor.
     
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    Nunes Aide Is Leaking the Ukraine Whistleblower’s Name, Sources Say


    Nov 6th 2019.....Let us know when Nunes' aides leak the Whistleblower/Leaker's name, okay lil fellas.
     
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    I don't know that it is a crime but it certainly is a bad thing to do. Good think Trump didn't do that.
     
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    The main problem that I have with this entire mess, is that I haven't been able to establish basic facts regarding the Ukrainian prosecutor. The two sides have entirely different narratives. It's too bad that we don't have an independent group that could determine fact. All we have are parrots of the dueling narratives.

    What I do know is that there was an appearance of conflict of interest. That is a violation of government standards for ethical behavior. Biden (either one) should not have been in that position. I dunno if that alone justifies any investigation.

    Should Biden and son be investigated?

    Personally, my bias is: Heck yeah!

    Objectively, I can't say. If the right-wing narrative is accurate, I think the answer is obviously yes. If the left-wing narrative is accurate, there's nothing to see there.

    Again, I haven't been able to prove to myself that either narrative is true. It just looks bad, to me.
     
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    He only didn’t do that if you can ignore all the testimony that he did exactly that. And his one defender just switched I guess he figured out the penalty for perjury.
     
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    Guess you didn’t read the memo of the transcript. It was right after Zelensky mentioned buying the missiles that Trump said “ I need a favor, though”

    And no the military aid that Trump held as bribe had not been released at the time of the call.
     
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    OK. Here’s what I will bring. You read the Constitution for obviously the first time in your life and then get back to us about your newly acquired knowledge about impeachment and the Constitutional requirements.
     
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    Well when you can demonstrate what I said was untrue perhaps we will talk again.
     
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    CBS.. really, you're selling fake news to the wrong person... but by all means keep watching they need your support since no one else is watching

    CBS Caught Twisting Reality in Fake News Broadcast to Stoke Racial Tensions
    https://thefreethoughtproject.com/cbs-fake-news-racial-tensions/
     
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    ...so you do not think Jim Jordan will be moved to the House Intelligence Committee?

    You won't listen to CBS, but you will listen to thefreethoughtproject.com? The ****
     
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    I don't watch CBS EVER, nor does anyone else for that matter... they've lied too many times...
     
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    ...He already has? That was the point of the OP.
     
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    You should re-evaluate your biases.
     
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    How about the media evaluate their biases...your not pointing this out clearly reveals yours
     
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