Nunes Aide Is Leaking the Ukraine Whistleblower’s Name, Sources Say

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    That doesn't matter.....they should have been but Hillary failed to mark classified material as classified, that's the point.

    That doesn't matter.....they should have been but Hillary failed to mark classified material as classified, that's the point.
     
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    When do Fat and Slim mean the same thing?
     
  3. MrTLegal

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    I don't have time nor motivation to read government reports but because it was in a government report doesn't necessarily mean that it is true. I will defer to you and withdraw my post.
     
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    So what they were never informed nor was it even mentioned in the call. The President has a DUTY to protect money sent to foreign countries especially those ranked at the top of most corrupt countries and we have their oligarchs paying off the son of a Vice President to put him in their back pockets.
     
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    Transcript..............nothing impeachable. And it is the duty of a President to protect the Presidency from such intrusions. Hey if Schiff has nothing to hide then he should be put under oath and publicly questioned on his role in this scheme.
     
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    It doesn't have to be deliberate it's called gross NEGLIGENCE and the information was BORN classified it doesn't have to be marked. She was guilty but those in charge from the getgo made sure she would not be charged with a crime.
     
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    All of that is false. In fact Hillary Clinton did send classified emails and it's public knowledge.

    You can watch to the end and get an idea of what was actually said and done.

     
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    Since the memo ( note it is not a transcript) clearly demonstrates a quid pro quo holding military aid hostage to Ukraine investigating Trumps political rival, and since that has now been corroborated by multiple sources including Trump’s own appointee, I would be curious as to why you think soliciting interference in America’s political system and holding Congressional approved military aid hostage to get that help is not an impeachable offense.

    And I guess if the Senate wants Schiff to testify that would be their prerogative since they will be conducting the trial. Meanwhile Trump stopping testimony by claiming executive privilege certainly demonstrates that the people called to testify would not support Trump’s claims. In fact no be has testified that would support Trump.

    And meanwhile now that the transcripts are being released we know the Republican claims that they have not been allowed to testify are total crap. Time to find another pathetic lie.
     
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    About the time the Trump administration embraced alternative truth.
     
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    It is the transcript and it clearly shows there was no quid pro quo but if you believe so then quote the passage that demands a quid pro quo and not a cherry picked edited passage. I curious as to why you believe corruption at the highest level should not be investigated and why you think persons who announce they are running for high office gain some immunity from investigation. Did Trump have such immunity?
     
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    No it is not a transcript which if you had bothered to read it you would know. It even says it is a memo not a transcript. Try actually reading it and if you don’t understand it find a sixth grader to help you.

    And the obvious “ I need a favor, though” right after the discussion about aid is pretty clear to anyone with enough education to understand the meaning of “ though”. And we now have Trump’s own appointed ambassador who apparently under his own fears of perjury has now confirmed the quid pro quo.
     
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    He lost the popular vote last time so his only majority was in the Republican gerrymandered electoral college. And last night election doe not portend well for Trump even repeating that electoral college win.
     
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    Well if soliciting foreign interference in our electoral process is not a high crime and misdemeanor what do you think could possibly qualify.
     
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    if you haven’t been paying attention it is not my job to educate you.
     
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    Military aid wasn’t mentioned in the memo of the call?

    Here is an excerpt from the memo:


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    •t:�;'HP) The· President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened wi
     
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    He'll probably lose California again, but that's taken into account. Now the electoral college has been "gerrymandered" because the Democrats lost, despite the previous president being a Democrat?

    An honest question. Do you know what you're saying is untrue or do you just not care? There are so many like you I'd like to know whether it's a political movement or just lapses in the information system.
     
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    When you rant about "gutting the Constitution" you have to bring something to the table.
     
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    Zelensky brought that up in the conversation, not Trump, and it's clear that the "great support" was past tense. Thus there cannot be any quid for any pro once the quid has already been received.

    Trying this argument in any genuine court of law would be laughed at and few serious people should buy into this mischief.
     
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    We already know the "whistleblower" is a Democratic Party operative. We just need the name.
     
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    Trump DID ask for an investigation of his political rival. Please explain Hunter Bidens connection to the Russia investigation.
     
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    Were they allowed to buy the Javalins ?
     
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    Its not going to them. The report clearly stated that she had no culpability.
     
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    The report says she had no culpability in any of it. The fact that she had emails on her private server that have since been mark "classified" is not her fault.

    Look, her having her own private server was DUMB. But we all know why she did it, because anytime a Clinton takes a pee, the right wing of this country wants to prosecute them from "loitering around a Toilet" or "Public indecency" or something. Im not defending what she did by having a private server, but I know why she did it.
     
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    Ummm, NO. Read the report. That is clearly explained !!!
     

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