Corona Virus Update

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  1. gfm7175

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    No it's not. Dr. Fauci is full of ****.
     
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    This is objectively false!
     
  3. AKS

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    And you base that on...? What makes you more of an authority on the subject? It's certainly not your sharp intellect.
     
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    Math is more authoritative than my wrongly stated opinion that it was bacteria. Whether you like it or not, this has become a complete debacle of a "response" that not only has proven absolutely worthless, but has been the single biggest grab of individual human rights in the past 50-60 years.

    And people wanted us to fear Trump. It turned out the greatest dictator was COVID-19.
     
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    FFS, you are WRONG and it is wholly irresponsible to continue making this claim.

    COVID-19 spreads more easily, it kills more people, and there are no current vaccines, antivirals, and no one has any antibodies to the virus.
     
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    Dr. Fauci is one of the foremost epidemiological experts in the world. Who the **** are you?
     
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    The right wing media is going to kill people before this is over. And we have just seen how. It will be interesting to see the class action lawsuits against Fox, Limbaugh et al for wrongful deaths, when this is over.
     
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    We've lost more human rights in 72 hours to this quack, then Donald Trump supposedly(didn't) take in 3 years. It's a complete debacle that as it stands, is yes, entirely worse than covid-19.

    I'm looking forward to next week, and the week after that. What's their excuse going to be as time piles up, and the 'curve' continues to lag?(Oh, they'll brag that it 'worked' but they'll have bigger problems than that.)

    I said that the health of our government pails in comparison to the 'crisis', but somehow Farci made it entirely worse. For the governmental society, not for our public health. In a country that prides itself on human rights, Mr. Farci will find it'll be the first and last time he's a public figure of any sort.
     
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    I am beginning to miss "Russia", "Russia", "Russia".
     
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    One of the central problems with your use of the numbers to debunk Dr. Fauci is that you are comparing deaths against total infections. The reason why that is wrong is because it assumes only one of two outcomes - you are either infected or you are dead.

    Instead, you can only truly get an accurate gauge of mortality by comparing the recovered against death. To put it another way, if you are still infected, then the virus might still kill you.
     
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    I also long for the days when Trump's corruption and ineptitude only meant that he was going to be impeached and possibly removed as compared to now when it means that Americans are more likely to die.
     
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    https://apnews.com/6e92d93551ee6c6ae51d0acaaad9eb32
    Iran warns virus could kill ‘millions’ in Islamic Republic
    The measures Iran is taking are actually lax compared to what is being done elsewhere with far fewer numbers than in Iran, including in Israel.
     
  13. AmericanNationalist

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    Maybe, but those odds don't look very high now do they? The rate of infection itself has come to a halt after it's increase here in the States. So either "yay, this really is working"(and for their sake given the human rights debacle, it had better work.), or B: It isn't a "little overreaction", Dr. Farci, it's a totally overblown reaction that has destroyed the US Economy.


    Our system, our fooding, our way of living is not something for some theorist to play God with, be proven totally wrong at and for us to continue with his insanity.
     
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    Hey, he believed Jussie over everybody else so...
     
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    If you would answer this question you would know this post is also wrong.
     
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    He's just another sock avatar for a well known contrarian... best to ignore.
     
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    Since you wanted me to answer and since we already have evidence(that the 'experts' are conveniently ignoring to avoid having egg on their face.): I project that the curve is actually largely static.

    Let's even take that worst case, Italy: 24,727 cases to.....1,809 deaths.

    I want you to look at those two numbers, stare them in the face and understand what they mean.

    Not convincing enough? Let's look at China: 81,077 cases to.....3,218 deaths.

    Hell, you can look at those numbers comparatively to get a YUGE understanding of what we're dealing with here.

    And for Iran, with it's 14,991 cases... 853 deaths.(I bring up Iran, because Iranian monitor gave us the absolutely cute proclamation from one of their professors that if they don't take these precautions, millions of Iranians will die lol.)

    I look forward to the next month from now(we'll give it a month, though the static rate has been utterly consistent.). But my hope is that in the next 30 days(and the more financial bleeding we collectively suffer.) that there's an collectively apology from these theorists around the world.

    They've disturbed the great human project of liberty for there hereto unproven theories.
     
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    What are you referencing in the bold? The number of infections in the US is still growing multiplicatively.
     
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    Am I supposed to take anything more than Italy has a mortality rate, thus far, of around 7%? And that China had a mortality rate of around 4%?
     
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    I should have used a "snail's pace" to be more accurate. The fact is, the threat was not only overstated, the draconian measures have threatened to undo Lady Liberty's progress. What happened to the whole 'resist Trump' thing? Farci's "steps" have done more damage in 72 hours, then Trump's presidency in 3 years.

    We have a grand total of 6, 606 deaths...WORLDWIDE.

    I'm not even a Libertarian. I'm a human being first and foremost. This has become absurd, and more dangerous than the virus. What Hitler needed bootstraps and violence for, we need a viral infection.
     
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    Yes. In Italy, 93% of cases are still alive as of now. And in China, that number is 96%.

    See, if you want me to be as rational as Dr. Farci(without being anywhere near as draconian.), the larger picture is that 93-96% of people in the WORST CASES are still alive. If that number holds, a month from now let me ask you this:

    Is a 4-7% loss rate worth giving up our human rights? Are we REALLY going to do this to our grand experiment?

    I want you to stop panicking for one second and look at what we're collectively destroying.
     
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    Britian is using herd immunity. They aren't shutting down. Is their hospitalization and death rate significantly higher? Critical thinking doesn't end with 'lol' I see you clearly are not a person worth discussing this matter...
     
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    Yes.
     
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    So to you the fact that the number of new cases is doubling every 3 days is constant?
     
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    Didn't the Prime Minister just recommend that all bars and restaurants close in the last 24 hours?
     
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