Trump flips out after Fox’s Chris Wallace tells him Joe Biden doesn’t support defunding police

Sorry, your first post sounded like you wanted to get them out right after Biden gets in. Minimalism is admirable, but not as important as clarity.

 

Peculiar in what way? He wasn't there for very long. I think he did give a short but accurate account of the Trump administration with that one infamous statement. Of personal interest, if I had grown up in my father's home town, Rex Tllerson would have been a classmate.

"Tillerson was right." I really should get that on a tee shirt or lapel button or something.

 

We never have. I've been voting since 1972 (right after they lowered the voting age to 1 and my favored candidates rarely get the party nomination, much less the Oval Office. Biden was not my first choice (or second or even third) but he's he's the guy this year.

Every presidential election, for me, comes down to who I think will do the least damage, and maybe do some good. POTUS is a complex and difficult job, and right now, we need someone who knows how to do that job. He's going to have a lot of mess to clean up!

 

1. biggest liar, most authoritarian, least knowledgeable......your opinion and you couldn't defend them if you wanted to
2. Saying biden lies is now defending trump? That's 100% false. The english language doesn't work that way. If you have to completely twist what I say to make a point, then you have no point.

 

I was responding to someone else who lied about what was said. I was responding to the lie.

And it was at least far more on topic than this post from you.

 

Go find where I claimed anything like that.

Biden said he was in favor of redirecting some police funding. That's all I said, don't interpret it as something else.

 

Lying about Biden is not working.

Unless a side-effect of COVID-19 is a delirium in which the victim fantasizes that flailing the flag of an entity that killed US soldiers (without Putin's complicity) and raving at a NASCAR driver are priorities for the nation, it's looking as if George Conway and other conservative Republicans are about to seize back their Party from the blight of Trumpery.

 

Trump, apparently realizing that he has little chance to defeat Joe Biden, has decided instead to run against an imaginary candidate who shares a name with his Democratic opponent but few of the same policy proposals...​

Biden has endorsed

... a broad array of police reforms, including use-of-force guidelines, federal oversight, racial-profiling restrictions, and others. There is nothing in it calling for the abolition of police or a reduction in funding for police. It calls for the federal government to “make smart investments to incentivize departments to build effective partnerships with social workers and mental health and substance use counselors to help respond to frontline public health challenges” — i.e., increasing the allotment of funding for the work currently performed by police. Biden did not endorse abolition or defunding of the police because it’s highly unpopular and he isn’t crazy.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trump-fox-news-joe-biden-chris-wallace-defund-police-caught-lying.html​

 

Trump took money from the military to build his wall, didn't he? I guess we can not only say "Trump wants to defund the military", but that he already has!

 

How the heck did I get that emoji instead of the number 8? Must be a ghost in my machine.

 

8+) =

If you want that 8 Parens effect, you need to put a period between the 8 and the ) = 8.)

Anyway, back on Topic...

Wallace made Trump look like an Absolute IDIOT...

 

I don't know if I would call it incompetent. I just attributed it to age. I blame the voters, like myself, for voting for senior citizens to run our country.

 

I'm sure Trump just thought - ah, Fox - and agreed.

 

My statement was my opinion of the situation. Its accuracy is not dependent on Trump admitting to anything.

 

Yeah...

In retrospect, it was a Horrible Idea to give Wallace an Interview...

At this point, Trump's "Judgement" is the equivalent of a lobotomized fruit fly...

Donald Trump?

 

Technically I agree with you.

 

Absolutely. And if you don't know the ins and outs of government - which is vital - then you surround yourself with people who do and listen to them. And you read your damn PDBs! That should be basic level understanding of the importance of the job. We, the people, count on the fact that POTUS will be well versed in what is going on in the world - beyond what we all get to see and read ourselves.

 

Well, I've done some posting on the so-called 'lies' she is reporting on as lies and she is distorting the facts.

I never said Trump eliminated the pandemic response team, but what he did do is emasculate the chain of command structure, and Morrison, who is a Trump appointee, naturally is going to take the party line, (and so is Kayla, the author of the article, and more on that below ) but her article isn't quite the truth, either. so, if Biden said Trump eliminated the pandemic response team, he is only technically wrong, but in terms of real world effect, given that Trump's abandonment of the structure emasculated it's effectiveness ( I'm not making this up, there are numerous articles published which document the specifics of what Trump actually did ) I'll cut Biden some slack on that point. And, if that is the caliber of her argument on that point, no doubt it's similar on the others. In other words, to say Biden is lying is disingenuous. To put Biden's not getting details perfect-- a trait common among humans--as 'lying' on par with the egregious and incessant over the top beyond the pale flat out lies by Trump, is just wrong. And Kayla Gowdy is a spokesperson for the AmericaFirstPac, i,e she's a Trumpster all the way.

 

Did booman delete his post? I can't find it.

 

I'm 69, and though I might forget, momentarily, the name of an actor who I'm trying to recall in conversation, I am perfectly capable of evaluating complex data, as the two functions are completely different areas of the brain and your premise is therefore, well, not only incorrect, but I would go as far as to say it's absurd.

 

Given the plain and proven fact that Trump lies, and does it, incessantly in the most literal sense of the word, he's fair game on the point of 'lying', and calling him a liar on this one is perfectly reasonable. When someone lies as much as this president does, he has forfeited the right of such distinctions.

 

Not instructing your staff to have the facts for presentation during debates is incompetence, that is altogether something quite different than forgetting, say, the name of an actor one is trying to recall in the course of casual conversation, or even debate. These functions are operated in entirely different regions of the brain, where one is far more likely affected by age than another. As a member of the group you are denigrating, noting that RGB is pushing 90 and her faculty for intellectual reasoning is still razor sharp, I must take issue with that point of view.

 

Biden did say “He is open to shifting some police funding to services like mental health counseling”.

Biden also said “Police become the enemy when they use military equipment in a way that is like the military is invading the neighborhood”.

Trump was in a gray area with that statement.

In January after Trump put in the travel restrictions Biden called Trump xenophobic.

All the fact checkers say that Biden never said that the “travel ban is xenophobic”.

That may be true, but it does not ignore the fact that he called Trump xenophobic right after Trump put in the travel ban”.

He was talking about the travel ban and called Trump xenophobic, but the phony fact checkers say “he never said the travel ban was xenophobic”.

If someone is talking about shifting some funds, away from the police.... That is proportional defunding of the police.

 

Do you have the Actual citation for that?

Being that you are using quote marks.

NO Joe Didn't "say" that.

He said something "like that" (approximately).

Still, quotation marks should only be used for EXACT Quotes.

Here is the EXACT Quote (in context):

"Surplus military equipment for law enforcement — they don't need that. The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood; it's like the military invading. They don't know anybody; they become the enemy, they’re supposed to be protecting these people."

Yeah. Trump is a Clueless Imbecile who makes a lot of mistakes and takes things out of context.

Everybody sees that.

 

According to the Brookings institute "Defund the police" means: "“Defund the police” means reallocating or redirecting funding away from the police department to other government agencies funded by the local municipality. That’s it. It’s that simple." LINK: What does 'defund the police" mean and does it have merit?

Biden absolutely did agree to redirect funding from the police. Per far leftists own definition, Biden did indeed call for defunding the police. Did he use the word "defund"? No. He didn't. But when you use far leftists own definitions and use the words that they use, Biden did agree to defund the police. I don't care what the liberal media says. I'm using leftists own definitions and words. The only way to deny that Biden did agree to defund the police is if you ignore your own definitions and words.