Why Hayek was Right About Nazis Being Socialists

To American Nazis...

If you worship at the alter of Hitler, stop it. Hitler proved he is scum. Not saying he was stupid, but he was scum.

Even Einstein suffered in some of his classes, but the man was a true genius.

Hitler was not wise. Hitler attacked nations. An unwise man attacks nations. So he was intelligent, but not wise and did stupid things.

 

Seriously? you are relying on a 19th century dilettante to substantiate your views of the white race in relation to all others?

Wow

 

Was Bush wise to attack Iraq? Democrats will say hell no. Bush was a deeper thinker than the Democrats admit. He believed that time would prove how dangerous Saddam was so he wanted to end that threat. And Bush did it wisely. He picked as his General, the fabled General Tommy Franks who was willing to annihilate Saddam yet try not to harm the people of Iraq. He gave them food and medicine as he had in Afghanistan too. Franks passed out millions of dollars to the fighters fighting the Taliban. This was wise. Pay others to lay down their life. American troops functioned more as planners and eyes for Franks. Franks will go down in history as one of our best all time Generals.

General Franks can be classified with Patton as a man of war who won fast.

 

You think in terms of race. Sorry but I do not.

 

I condemn them all. See post 301 as a good example.

 

I have pointed out the differences between nazism and socialism in the simplest way I can.

 

Germany became a nation later than most.

They were quite sensitive about that, and invented a mythology to hide it.

That evolved into the Nazi "Master Race" nonsense. You can find similar thinking in the American South.

This lead to a parade of irony and absurdity. One of the soldiers they put on their posters was actually Jewish.

You really can't take that crap seriously. China made a number of contributions to civilisation. The Arabs had their era of progress, and their records played a crucial role in ending the Dark Ages in Europe. In fact, Jewish scholars translated Arabic texts in Arabic style estates in Spain.

There is a body of work trying to figure out why some places have these eras of progress, and other places do not. The most famous is Guns, Germs, and Steel, but there are others.

 

Thank you for your efforts. I did it myself. Nazis were into making War. Socialists of Russia waged war on themselves. What is the real difference I want to learn.

 

Hitler attacked socialists in his own party. He actively worked against the socialism in his party. I've provided details of this. There are reasons to condemn him besides his economics. Hell, my grandfather was to the left of Hitler on economics, but that doesn't justify what the Nazi regime did to him.

 

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Now do you still think that Nazism was socialist.

 

You tried to draw blood by speaking of our states in the South. And that is totally wrong.
I personally served in our Army in Germany at a time when the word Nazi meant far more than it does now.

I saw several things. I saw some of the war destruction. I also was in East Berlin when the Communists ran the city. It was very very poor and in terrible condition. Guards were carrying machine guns. Imagine if American cops walked around cities sporting machine guns on them.

Democrats can be counted on to discuss the evil SOB Hitler and they talk as if they approve the form of socialisms in the Soviet Empire.

Watch them today talk about Putin. Putin does not operate the way Stalin did. Stalin was a no holds barred dictator. Obey him or die being shot to death.

Look at the splendid way you discuss China. Admire them a lot do you? Putin found out he could be liked a lot by the Russians and they were not used to things we have in America, the electoral college for instance. Democrat's hate that system of Government.

I do know of the book Guns, Germs and Steel and though have not read it, I have long intended to read that book.
Americans who watched the Bob Crane TV series on the Nazis got the wrong idea. Nazis were not amusing. Hogans Heros is wrong history.

 

Nope, no reading comprehension problem.

 

dude, are you actually defending the Nazis???

wow.

 

I outlined the socialist parts of Germany during Hitler. Jew hate was not new to Germany nor to Hitler. It was pretty old in fact.

I used to be friends with a man from Ukraine who was a Jew. He told me his family originated in Germany about 400 years back and left Germany due to the hate there.

Apparently you are in love with Socialism. If I created a poem similar to yours to knock down Socialism, would you agree?

 

dude, you're the one who said the Germans were protecting themselves.

 

See how easy it is for you to be fooled. I do not defend Nazis but yesterday when It appeared you defended Socialism, you had a fit over it.

No I do not defend Nazis nor Socialists.

 

do you think the Nazis were right, to defend Germans?

 

I am eager for you to tell me that they were not protecting themselves and give us evidence.

 

Who but Germans would you think they defended from Allies attacks?

 

do you support their "preservation" of the German "race"?

how exactly did they work to "preserve" their race and other "Aryans"?

 

please explain to us how the Holocaust, invading Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, France, Belgium, Norway, Holland, Luxembourg, Italy, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Greece, Romania, Sweden, was an act of "self-defense"???

how was murdering around 6 million Jews an act of "self-defense"????

 

Have you been into Germany and discussed this at all with the Germans that survived WW2? I spent time investigating the Germans for my own edification. As to your grandfather, of course he was harmed by the Nazis. And that is wrong. On all counts.

 

I did not create that poem it is quoted from the US National Holocaust Museum and written by the Lutheran Pastor Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller. Interesting you think a Lutheran Pastor who stood up to the Nazis was "in love with socialism"

 

You are talking early war. I am trying to speak to them self preserving when we attacked them and conquered the Nazi regime.

As to the acts you name now, of course that was aggression to the max. Not self defense. .

 

I'd love to hear how murdering around 6 million Jews and millions of other civilians, was an act of "self-defense".

Id love to hear how attacking and invading all of Europe was "self-defense".