Even as vaccine numbers rise, Democrats double down on masks

So you and many others can do all those wondrous things sometime in the next year, not having already fought for your last painful breath from a new strain. Do conservatives all WANT to die for their fracking FFRREEDOOMM that badly or what? Conservative "values" notwithstanding we still can't just blithely watch everyone ELSE die painfully as a new resistant strain mutates up out of the huge infected population you all seem to want just YET. What is the MATTER with conservatives anyway? We WON'T be wearing the masks forever, not at least unless there's a resurgence due to everybody taking the masks off too soon.

Jeebus, I thought conservatives were supposed to be patient and wise, not precipitate and idiotic.

 

There is no scientific evidence that masks help in any way against coronavirus.

 

Trumpism is still very alive, and it's about to kill us all if we let it. Generalized anti-science and even anti-knowledge bs is still being pushed hard even though it has neither basis nor even benefit to anyone at this point.

It is important now more than ever that we eradicate this pernicious ideology and one of the best ways to do that would be to further discredit its main advocate. Donald Trump HAS to be incarcerated for his many proven crimes. Lock him up.

 

Apart from the thousands of studies showing that masks do reduce risk of infection

 

What number did I report? Another illusion of yours?

 

May be, but not against COVID-19

 

Why do you think that the Covid virus is any different to any other viruses?

 

Hush, that's like saying the Emperor is wearing no clothes!

 

That is what is science supposed to find out, but apparently wearing masks does not help.
They help though against Influenza
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm

 

You're the one who is saying that the covid virus is unique compared to other viruses, not the scientists, so I am asking you why do you think that the Covid virus is any different to any other viruses?

 

That is what scientists should answer.
But they do not answering it, instead they join political class and grab the power.
I see that regardless of mask wearing every nation goes exactly through the same path, approximately the same number of infections and deaths.

 

So you have no evidence that the covid virus is any different to any other virus but you are going to maintain it is because of your agenda. I think the noun "quack" is apt here

 

I just quoted CDC that is an evidence.
My explanation can be based only on common sense.
The common sense is that somehow COVID-19 viruses pernitrate masks much better.
OR, may be they survive on the surface of the masks for longer period of time.

 

That link shows that flu cases have been reduced due to the mitigations used during the past 12 months. That link nothing to do with the covid virus but shows that masks reduce transmission

So based on nothing. "Somehow" is not a scientific explanation. Covid virus is more contagious than the flu virus

 

Scientists could not explain it, but forced and continue force us to wear masks.
In my opinion, they know that masks are the source of COVID-19 infection, but they are doubling down on masks not to lose confidence.

 

Yea of course they are, the millions of scientists in the 200 odd countries are all in on this conspiracy to control you

 

You have no standing to call anyone a quack with the disinformation you’ve posted. Remember this jewel? Goodness. Vaccines don’t prevent infection. Where did you hear that? Certainly not from “science”. LOL

 

My god! What is up with you? Are you having a bad day! Jumping in like you have!
Vaccines are not guaranteed to prevent infection! Many people have contracted Covid after receiving two doses of the vaccine

Shall we talk about your lies you posted? You know where you stated that you always wore a mask and did not leave your house? Where you wrote "if everyone approached covid 19 as I have the pandemic would have ended in the US in March of 2020" (Feb 2021) and also wrote "No one I know wears a mask anywhere that I know of. I wear a mask sometimes when working in grain bins. " (May 2020) or your post saying that "Fauci at the very least should have told Americans to make homemade masks in the March 8 interview" after you saying that homemade masks are useless yet here we have you in May 2020 saying that you only sometimes wear a mask and that is when you are working in grain bins. Or we could talk about the many times you have written that the negative aspects of masks outweigh the positives and then contradict yourself by saying that you are pro-mask. You can't keep your stories straight

 

Of course no vaccine is guaranteed to prevent infection. None. I’ve stated that clearly before. And I presented you evidence for weeks the US approved Covid vaccines do prevent infection in 80-95% of recipients. Yet you guys kept lying and saying they don’t prevent infection. Of course they do—we’ve known about sterilizing immunity for decades. Now you wonder why some people think it’s pointless to vaccinate. Well, because you guys lied for months about the efficacy of the Covid vaccines and sterilizing immunity. Just like Fauci lying about masks in March of 2020 resulted in many refusing masks.

Never happened. You would use the quote function instead of fabricating and taking out of context if you had a case. You care nothing for truth.

Fabrication. Never posted that.

Absolutely true. If everyone had done what I did the middle of February 2020 the pandemic would have been over in the US before it hardly started.

True. At that time nobody I knew wore a mask for Covid. Also true I sometimes wear a mask in grain bins.

Yes, if Fauci was to remain credible he should have recommended homemade masks in March 2020. Also true homemade masks are much inferior to N95 and better masks. This is a fact you have distorted.

I am the most pro mask PF member. I just base my posts on empirical evidence unlike you and most others. In many cases the negative aspects of mask usage outweigh the positive. Look at this exchange from this week for evidence of what I’ve been saying all along.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072597644/

As usual, your problem is you think you understand “science” but you don’t.

No bad day, but thanks for asking. I’m just tired of reading posts like yours claiming superior knowledge or “adherence to science” when in reality you post things just as nonsensical as the posts you criticize. Also, I’m sickened by the lie you guys told about sterilizing immunity for months. It is directly responsible for people not getting vaccinated. Of course you are all unapologetic and move on to the next pile of BS and shovel it around PF.

 

U.S. vaccination rates began to decline on the very day of the Johnson & Johnson "pause"

3,410 deaths from the COVID vaccines reported to the CDC

United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Public Health Service (PHS), Centers for Disease Control (CDC) / Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) 1990 - 4/23/2021, CDC WONDER On-line Database. Accessed at http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html on Apr 30, 2021 9:41:36 PM

 

And two more contradictory statements from 557

May 15th 2020 "I drive an average of 60 miles a day right now and still haven’t seen anyone driving with a mask."

Jan 8th 2021 "........March 8 (2020). I had already gone into voluntary self quarantine because I recognized the danger".

Self quarantine yet driving 60 miles a day! 557 cannot keep his stories straight

 

Absolutely self quarantined. Never set foot on public property or private property not my own from approximately February 15 to early August 2020. Did not interact with any human besides my wife (also self quarantined in same circumstances) and a couple other individuals also self quarantined in that time period. Not a story, just the truth, something you care nothing for.

I drive approximately 60 miles a day that time of year between my properties carrying out irrigation, haying, planting, calving operations, etc.

You continue to mistake your ignorance of the actual facts for knowledge when it comes to my posts and biological sciences.

 

So you have your own gas station, your own gravel pit and drive through your own towns where there is zero chance of interacting with any other persons. LOL at you saying that you interacted with others who were self quarantining. That's NOT self quarantining! You cannot keep your stories straight.

 

You cannot understand what he said, probably because you don't want to.

He lives on a ranch and self quarantined with his wife. No other human contact, was his point.

 

"and a couple other individuals also self quarantined"