Is Roe v. Wade at Risk???

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    I take it you dont believe in right to privacy. Not a great surprise, but the Supreme Court ruled 4th amendment is about privacy. Maybe things are different in your country.
     
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    Which case?
     
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    As usual, you have no point and HAD to avoid that "Feared and Avoided Question For Anti-Choicers"":

    Why an exception in cases of rape?
     
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    Griswold v. Connecticut.

    You should make an effort to look things up on your own.

    How about your country? No right to privacy? Do police have master key to every house, so they can just pop in to see what's going on?
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    avoiding that """Feared and Avoided Question For Anti-Choicers"":

    Why an exception in cases of rape?



    See how quiet it got....;)
     
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    You don't want exceptions?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    avoiding that """Feared and Avoided Question For Anti-Choicers"":

    Why an exception in cases of rape?


    I didn't say that, I asked why Anti-Choicers make an exception for rape.

    Can you tell me?




    I don't want there to be a need for exceptions, abortion should remain legal.
     
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    The amazing thin about all this ... America ALREADY TRIED anti-abortion laws and they failed - for 100 years.

    Read the Supreme Court decision on the reasons the Justices voted the way they did in Roe v. Wade.
     
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    And it is with a few common sense regulations. So what's the problem?
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    avoiding that """Feared and Avoided Question For Anti-Choicers"":

    Why an exception in cases of rape?

    Can you tell me?

    I don't want there to be a need for exceptions, abortion should remain legal.



    The only problem is Anti-Choicers trying to get abortion banned.

    Some want to ban abortion but make an exception if the pregnancy is due to rape.

    I ask them why abortion in the case of rape should be an exception and ,as you can see, they never have an answer.
     
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  12. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    avoiding that """Feared and Avoided Question For Anti-Choicers"":

    Why an exception in cases of rape?

    Can you tell me?

    I don't want there to be a need for exceptions, abortion should remain legal.






    The only problem is Anti-Choicers trying to get abortion banned.

    Some want to ban abortion but make an exception if the pregnancy is due to rape.

    I ask them why abortion in the case of rape should be an exception and ,as you can see, they never have an answer.



    No, it's Anti-Choice, people who don't think women should be able to have a CHOICE between gestation and abortion.

    IF it was Anti-Abortion the they would NOT make exceptions...


    Let me explain a fact of life...the procedure and outcome of an abortion whether due to consensual sex or rape ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

    IF abortion is banned (Anti-Choicers say it's MURRRRRRDER! !!!) then why isn't it murder in ALL cases?

    That is the question Anti-Choicers can NEVER answer and you couldn't either...

    The "compromise" was reached with RvW which has been satisfactory for most Americans for 50 years.





    There is only one side that is radical, the side that wants to obliterate women's right to their own bodies.
     
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    Remember your Bible. Women are just vessels for men to put children in. How dare they ask for an exception to their duty? GA-HAWD said that pregnancy should come about. Who are these sinful agents of His Holy Will to Argue with the Almighty?

    And of course, the father should get visitation, though for the whore who tempted him to SIN to ask him for any real support merits nothing but the lash, in the True Christian Way.

    Anti Choicers are a special type of religious fanatic, the kind that wants to overturn this nation's Freedom to establish a theocracy and enslave women to their own physiology. If I had my way anyone who had ever supported anti Choice would lose their right to vote and maybe even be deported. They are against the rights this country extends to everyone and which many of us are willing to die for. We don't need them here.
     
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    Or maybe the side that refuses to accept established law. I'm sure there are arguments from the anti abortion faction that sound much like your own. Thankfully common sense rules most human interactions. Except sex, we're all stupid there.
     
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    Nobody is anti choice, many just don't believe abortion should be an unregulated option. Others believe abortion is the only choice that is acceptable.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    avoiding that """Feared and Avoided Question For Anti-Choicers"":

    Why an exception in cases of rape?

    Can you tell me?

    I don't want there to be a need for exceptions, abortion should remain legal.

    The only problem is Anti-Choicers trying to get abortion banned.

    Some want to ban abortion but make an exception if the pregnancy is due to rape.

    I ask them why abortion in the case of rape should be an exception and ,as you can see, they never have an answer.





    it's Anti-Choice, people who don't think women should be able to have a CHOICE between gestation and abortion.

    IF it was Anti-Abortion the they would NOT make exceptions...




    Let me explain a fact of life...the procedure and outcome of an abortion whether due to consensual sex or rape ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

    IF abortion is banned (Anti-Choicers say it's MURRRRRRDER! !!!) then why isn't it murder in ALL cases?

    That is the question Anti-Choicers can NEVER answer and you couldn't either...

    The "compromise" was reached with RvW which has been satisfactory for most Americans for 50 years.


    There is only one side that is radical, the side that wants to obliterate women's right to their own bodies.





    How vague....


    What has that to do with what we were discussing?...Nothing.


    Why do you reply to my posts if you can't/won't address what's in them ??

    But it confirms what I said about asking that inconvenient question: How is an abortion due to rape any different than an abortion due to consensual sex?

    STILL NO ANSWER
     
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    I did address your question. If no compromise is acceptable then ban abortions. It's that simple. Nobody denies a woman the right to her OWN body or tries to eliminate choice an anyone elses life. Society sets bounds and it's generally best to color inside the lines that define those social boundaries.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    avoiding that """Feared and Avoided Question For Anti-Choicers"":

    Why an exception in cases of rape?

    Can you tell me?

    I don't want there to be a need for exceptions, abortion should remain legal.

    The only problem is Anti-Choicers trying to get abortion banned.

    Some want to ban abortion but make an exception if the pregnancy is due to rape.

    I ask them why abortion in the case of rape should be an exception and ,as you can see, they never have an answer.


    it's Anti-Choice, people who don't think women should be able to have a CHOICE between gestation and abortion.

    IF it was Anti-Abortion the they would NOT make exceptions...

    Let me explain a fact of life...the procedure and outcome of an abortion whether due to consensual sex or rape ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

    IF abortion is banned (Anti-Choicers say it's MURRRRRRDER! !!!) then why isn't it murder in ALL cases?

    That is the question Anti-Choicers can NEVER answer and you couldn't either...

    The "compromise" was reached with RvW which has been satisfactory for most Americans for 50 years.


    There is only one side that is radical, the side that wants to obliterate women's right to their own bodies.




    Why do you reply to my posts if you can't/won't address what's in them ??

    But it confirms what I said about asking that inconvenient question: How is an abortion due to rape any different than an abortion due to consensual sex?

    STILL NO ANSWER




    No, you didn't...my question was:

    Why do Anti-Choicers make an exception for rape?

    NO one has answered that....you haven't....




    LOL, no it isn't that simple....50 years later and RvW is still there :)


    .

    WHAT ! You haven't seen the attempts by Anti-Choicers to ban abortions???!!!!! WTF!


    YES, and RvW has set those bounds.......so Anti-Choicers should butt out especially if they can't answer those INconvenient questions.
     
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    Why make an exception for rape?

    ......""" this is usually the point at which you ungracefully pull out of the debate! """" ;)
     
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    I have answered you repeatedly, you just don't like it. I can live with that.
     
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    No, you didn't...my question was:

    Why do Anti-Choicers make an exception for rape?

    NO one has answered that....you haven't....



    OK, then give me the post number...I have read all your posts and have not seen your answer....


    OR you could just state it here and quit evading:

    Why do Anti-Choicers make an exception for rape?
     
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    I told you it's a political compromise and has nothing to do with choices and everything to do with abortion. You'll probably study that in 8th grade.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No, you didn't...my question was:

    Why do Anti-Choicers make an exception for rape?

    NO one has answered that....you haven't....





    OK, then give me the post number...I have read all your posts and have not seen your answer....


    OR you could just state it here and quit evading:

    Why do Anti-Choicers make an exception for rape?



    How can it be a compromise?

    Anti-Choicers want to ban abortion because they say it's murder.

    Why would it NOT be murder for a rape victim but only for women who had consensual sex??
    Can you answer that ????



    You can't make something illegal for one group of people but not for another.

    The True story is that Anti-Choicers ( some of them) don't want to look like the bad guys by forcing a raped women to have her rapists baby...

    ..but that makes them hypocrites....and points out that they REALLY want to punish women who had consensual sex.


    Why would it NOT be murder for a rape victim but only for women who had consensual sex??
    Can you answer that ????
     
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    She had no choice. I'm all about choices.
     
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    So if the woman didn't have a choice, abortion is not murder. But if she had a choice, abortion is murder. Got it. ;)

    How does the baby know to be a person or not depending on if the woman had a choice?
     

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