Is Roe v. Wade at Risk???

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  1. Ritter

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    Because there is simply no rational way of ascribing rights to an entity that is only a potemtial life that is not even yet an individuated being.

    Only conscious human beings can recognise and need rights.
     
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    Why? Because God said so?
     
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    ZEFs are not babies .
     
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    NO "babies " are killed in abortion....try science, it's your friend....and a dictionary to look up "genocide".
     
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    If YOU say a fetus has rights, does it?

    No.:)
     
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    Yes. An innocent unborn child has the right to be born.
     
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    No, it doesn't.

    Post 393? Are you avoiding it?
     
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    EVERYONE knows that sane women don't kill their born kids.
     
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    It's why women should not be prosecuted for having an illegal abortion.
     
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    Many pro-choice people don't CELEBRATE abortion as you do.
     
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    That's the problem - it's not a life to them.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    But you still have NO idea what women know or don't know.""""



    Why do you keep repeating what YOU know????

    That's weird and has nothing to do with what you think women know....

    ...and has NOTHING to do with abortion...WTF!

    You have nothing to say, can't address other posts but keep repeating this crap ???
     
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    WHAT TF? What has one got to do with the other....????

    Killing born kids is murder. Abortion is not.

    And if abortion is made illegal then women would be prosecuted for murder....saying they're too stupid to know they're committing an illegal act won't cut it...

    PROVE that only mentally unstable women have abortions.

    And sane woman DO kill their kids...so AS USUAL, you have NO POINT....and are desperately trying to deflect from those inconvenient posts you CAN'T address...:) Like 367
     
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    You have NO idea what women know or don't know......:) and probably never will.
     
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    So?
     
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    So you're a sick person if you don't just think abortion should available, but actually CELEBRATE abortion.
     
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    Yes, I'm talking about IF elective abortion was illegal. You are clearly happy to play along with my 'IF scenario', given that you are asking why women should not be prosecuted for having an illegal abortion IF elective abortion was illegal.

    I never said that they are too stupid to know they're committing an illegal act. That's NOT what mens rea is about. If elective abortion was banned, women would know that they are getting an illegal abortion, but they obviously wouldn't know that what is being killed is a life which is equal to a born life, given that sane women don't kill their BORN kids. I totally understand why a sane woman who wouldn't kill their BORN kid, wouldn't see the big deal in having their UNBORN kid killed. I don't pretend that there's no difference between the connection that a mother has with her unborn kid and the connection that she has with her born kid. With her born kid, she can see them with her own eyes and touch and hold them! VERY different!

    Why the hell would I prove something which I did not claim?

    No, they do not. Anyone who would call someone SANE if they killed their kid, are themselves NOT SANE! Are you sane?
     
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    Because you refuse to accept my answer to your question.

    You asked me why why women should not be prosecuted for having an illegal abortion. That is my answer. So it IS about abortion!
     
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    And a woman has a right not to have her health and life threatened
     
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    This isn't about what you want! It's about whether there would be a black market for tattoos if tattoo parlours were banned. And the answer is, OF COURSE there would be!

    So possession of child pornography and other obscene material should be legal?
     
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    Yes, absolutely. It would be inconvenient to operate according to your timetable. Even if I NEVER responded to that post (which I now have), that would be no different to you who hasn't responded to MANY of my posts in the past, which have been too much for you. Well, no different except for the fact that it would have been the ONLY post of yours that I've not responded to.
     
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    Because they are not as a result of a consensual act, but rather of a crime. I admit that it's an inconsistent position to hold, just like any pro-choice person who thinks that late term elective abortion should be illegal.
     
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    What is so sick about celebrating right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? What is sick about celebrating a medical technology that saves women from being slaves to nature and instead gives them full control of their bodies and lives?
     
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    You have NO idea what women know or don't know......
     
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    Of course. Right to privacy is a ridiculous idea to you, so any argument to support it is ridiculous

    For whatever reason you promote the government's right to your private matters.

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    • First Amendment: Provides the freedom to choose any kind of religious belief and to keep that choice private.
    • Third Amendment: Protects the zone of privacy of the home.
    • Fourth Amendment: Protects the right of privacy against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government.
    • Fifth Amendment: Provides for the right against self-incrimination, which justifies the protection of private information.
    • Ninth Amendment: This amendment is interpreted to justify a broad reading the Bill of Rights to protect your fundamental right to privacy in ways not provided for in the first eight amendments.
    • Fourteenth Amendment: Prohibits states from making laws that infringe upon the personal autonomy protections provided for in the first thirteen amendments. Prior to the Fourteenth Amendment, a state could make laws that violated freedom of speech, religion, etc.
     
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