Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

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  1. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its called human rights not person rights
    you can play word games all you want
    but the fact remains
    you are labeling a demographic as humans with no rights, second class humans
    like you democrats did with your slaves humans with no rights
     
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    Clear is useless when it's arbitrary. And it matters because the woman is a real person who can suffer. An embryo is not.
     
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    Using "common language(emotional )" as opposed to scientific factual language doesn't help you in a discussion on abortion.
     
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    Too bad - is the woman's choice whether or not to continue the pregnancy .. and thus the worman's sole responsibility to be responsible fo the consequences of her unilateral action - unless they both agree that the pregnancy be continued - in which case both are responsible.
     
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    It they were murdered.......but no one was murdered.
     
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    That's what the debate is about, isn't it.
     
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    This is tiresome. There is, it's been shown on this thread numerous times. You choose not to believe facts which means any more discussion with you on this subject is a waste of time.
     
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    Viability (or lack thereof) is really a bad argument for abortion. Lots of people are dependent upon others and we don't go around shooting them dead, either.
     
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    For you and for others but the legal and scientific facts don't back you so there is no debate.
     
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    False equivalency
     
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    Not at all. Grandma is confined to a wheel chair and can barely make it out to get food without someone driving her. If nobody helped her, she would likely starve to death. Why not just go shoot her and save the world from having to take care of her, too?
     
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    You can't use the legal facts to back up an argument that just is about what the law should be. That's begging the question.

    You can't use scientific facts, because they undermine instead of supporting your argument, lol.

    What else ya got?
     
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    There is always a failure rate, but if someone really doesn't want to become pregnant there are multiple steps that can be taken to decrease the odds. It ain't sexy, but hey, don't do the deed if you don't like the consequences and PAY UP if you do it. Like I said, abort away. Don't need MORE unwanted babies. What we need are more responsible, educated people who want children or at least 2 or more. The last thing we need are poor people popping out babies like kittens=)
     
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    It's not me playing word games, it is you. I give you scientific terms and you dismiss them for your own.
    I don't know if you are aware but there is a "Declaration of Human Rights" and they don't address abortion or pre birth life forms. Article 3 says everyone has a right to life yet it does not refer to pre birth.
    So what is your proof of these "human rights".
     
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    Again a false equivalency. Why don't you say if someone puts a new born on a table it is helpless. That argument didn't work either.
     
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    Not a false equivalency at all. Are you trying to define the debate so that you win, lol? Bad tactic. Completely uncompelling.
     
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    And your false declarations notwithstanding I have provided the facts back by the scientific literature and textbooks and they remain unrefuted as with my other points, you leave the discussion but at least admit why and not with the phony excuses.
     
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    You are wrong on both counts.
    The law is the law. You are the one begging the question of what it should be.
    There has nothing at all in this whole thread that undermines scientific facts.
    I don't need anything else.
     
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    Definitions of the right to life
    The right to life is enshrined in Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.



    The right is enshrined in Article 6 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights:

    1. Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.

    read that again every Human being not person but Human
     
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    You'd have made a great advocate for slavery.

    I can hear the question begging celebration now:
    The LAW IS THE LAW!!! A slave is 3/5 a person and THAT IS THAT!! I win! Yay for me!
     
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    Thanks to this precedent and the court's inaction other more liberal states could pass laws to make people get vaccinated and wear a mask letting the public sue them for $10k if caught breaking the law. Legalized vigilantism.
     
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    Perfect, let her deal with it then! BTW nice of you to squash your own posts LMAO :)
     
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    Anti-abortion groups are fired up over the Texas ruling. They're just getting started.

    "Anti-abortion groups are feeling empowered after the Supreme Court allowed Texas’ law banning most abortions to stand, a move that experts have said could be a “blueprint” for gutting abortion rights nationwide. Lawmakers in Florida, South Dakota and Ohio have already expressed interest in copycat laws."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru


    As if these groups have any right to impose their beliefs on others. Most are fanatical and have turned to destructive behavior......like burning down Abortion clinics.
     
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    But it isn't arbitrary which you could kill a baby in the womb is arbitrary
     

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