Which Christian denominations have we got here?

According to a lot of more vocal and criticizing Christians, those other "Christians" who don't believe exactly as they do.

 

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Actually it is very much the point.

But have you ever defended these groups, or just whistle and cross to the other side of the street, metaphorically speaking.

I do. Whether it is the Christian being unduely attacked as not being a "True Christiantm" or the Satanists (either type) for exercising his God given right of choice. For the Christ's example did not call for the attack of anyone.

No more so than the Christians who do have a right to attack them. But when all the example they have is what the other types of Christians do, why would you expect them to behave otherwise. What are you doing to counter the hate that the visible and highly vocal Christians are directing towards the aforementioned groups? Personally I am working among them as a known Christian who is not judging or hating them, as are other Christians I know.

I ask that question of many other Christians. And quite frankly, of members of pretty much every other group. The bad apples exist in the all, without exception (the overall communities, not individual sub groupings).

 

I agree. Personally, I try to give the benefit of the doubt until they reveal where they stand. Those who try to dismiss the abuse are then put in the same camp with the abusers. But where is the public outcry against this. Have you walked away from a diocese or whatever when they have covered up such things or moved the priest instead of him facing charges? And maybe you do, but until you are seen on that, sadly people will associate you with the worst of your lot. I see it all the time among the poly and BDSM communities. And while we are doing so much better is putting forth our positive examples, we suffer because of the bad ones, even if we didn't do those actions. Look at the overall representation of the LBGT community. While we all can point to the most....visible....ones, even most Christians today can honestly say that they are not the stereotype of assault and conversation that is still claimed by a vocal minority. And until recently that minority wasn't even all that visible. Quite honestly, most people would not hold events like the Inquisition and the Crusades against the church if there were not the atrocities that are happening today along with the cover ups. Most can appreciate a church that has grown beyond that behavior.

 

You do realize that LBGT and the rest of the ridiculous alphabet soup is sinful in Christianity? If these things offend Christians, and if parents do not want them proselytized to their children, don't you think that they have rights and that their rights should be respected? So why are they imposing something on them which is perceived as a deviancy and therefore sinful?

This doesn't mean I have anything against homosexuals, lesbians or what not, because I really perceive them as victims - but not as you perceive it. I see them as a victim because of the adverse influence society and humanity had in general in forming their sexuality. It's an influence that many of the LBGT are trying to continue and propagate through their militancy and that's what I object to. I believe in total freedom, and that no one has the right to impose anything on anyone.

 

We are all in the same boat, in terms of all representing our highest ideals, which are synonymous with our gods and or political affiliations.

That best thinking I have in the following.

Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation and “I am”, represents the best rules and laws that we have found to live by.

In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.

Alan Watts - On The Book of Eli - YouTube

Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.

On Becoming an Adult - YouTube

The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

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I was Catholic, Cathar thinking made me a good Christian and Gnostic Christian.

I grew up thinking Jesus dying for me was a good thing, until I realized it was a sin to even think that way as shown by what Jesus taught.

Has your moral sense decided the same way?

If you cannot answer that, then you are not ready to be a good Catholic.

Regards
DL

 

Sure, but like here, few are good apologists, and that is why their numbers are dwindling.

It will get worse as religions continue to shrink. It is happening faster than I predicted.

I enjoy the give and take, but the religious and political right only have outdated views and that noise/sabre rattling they are making are death throes.

If you have actually found a decent Christian apologists, a rare find, please link me up.

Regards
DL

 

Do they insult you because of ideas?

That is usually my experience.

If so, an example please.

Know that I insult for ideas and poor morals, and other unhealthy ways of thinking promoted by the religious. Like foolish supernatural thinking and faith without facts.

In insulting, reciprocity is fair play.

In a productive insult, one can learn much.

To you last.

I have often wondered how mean people could get, and have seen that limit in those who adore Yahweh and Jesus, evil genocidal gods.

Regards
DL

 

Pagan rites, like human blood sacrifice?

Answer while you wash yourself clean, dirty pig, in the blood of your genocidal suicidal hero, Jesus.

Regards
DL

 

I have shown you the picture and logic of why Satan is a female.

You are too stupid to learn new facts.

All Americans are as slaved to their oligarch owners, just as the rest of the world is to theirs.

Sick right wing bastards do not have the right to preach against the equalizing laws of the land.

The good people in our lands are not ready to hate our gay children and females just because the immoral god religions say we should.

The religious preach love, while showing hate.

Nice that religions are dying.

Regards
DL

 

Indeed.

Potentially good Christians call an evil Yahweh good.

Which Christians are the good Christians, if not the Gnostic Christian?

Compare any moral tenet to see our better thinking, which is above the genocidal god's and his poor apologists.

You will not like this guy but do listen to his comparisons and you will know why the Jews found Yahweh guilty of breaking his covenant.



Regards
DL

 

Or... is Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan ACTING evil much like the
Authority Figure in the Milgram Experiment????????

To at least some degree Job chapter one would fit with that possibility?????

https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/job/1?lang=eng

What Jesus showed to the gifted Mary K. Baxter would also fit at least somewhat with this possibility?????

 

Armageddon and your true genocidal god.

You and St. Hitler have a strange wish list.

Regards
DL

 

Try Job 2;3, where god admits to being moved by Satan to sin, and do evil to a soul, without a just cause.

Most like to condemn the hit man, --- while giving the don who gave the order to kill, -- a free pass.

Hypocrites and moral cowards, mostly.

Regards
DL

 

"Broad is the gate and wide the way that leads to destruction. And many there be who go in there at. But straight is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life. And few there be who find it.".... "I am the way, the truth and the life. None cometh unto the Father but by me." (Jesus Christ)

If you loved your children, you wouldn't send them to hell in a handbasket by lying and telling them that perversity is gay like a bird song, or a simple optional lifestyle like whether to live in the country or city. But you have to say that because the lie is prettier than what the truth shows. Nor would you lie and say that basic morality and virtue is hate. Your reasoning is both upside down and inside out. Such that even were it improved by half, it would remain totally wrong. The truth is not in disrepair or diminished but in the hearts of people. It is all a matter of that which one loves. Your reasoning is so senseless and vulgar, that I suspect you are not even an adult. How old are you anyway...about fourteen?

 

For the same reasons you show the opposite view.

To protect and warn people about people like you, who see sin where there is none.

If there is a sinner it is the god who created them.

Right?

Strange that you do not have faith enough in god and think that he goofed in creating gay and female souls and made them of lesser value.

Regards
DL

 

I have to admit that that is an intriguing idea!

Do you think that I am an idiot to suspect that Azazel.... (whoever Azazel is)..... will eventually be brought to repentance??

Am I an idiot to think that this could lead to the DIVISION and the fall of the kingdom of Satan?????


https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/lev/16/1/s_106001


but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel. (verse ten)



The Book of Enoch, chapter thirteen.....

 

Nature creates for our best possible end.

The prick you follow creates for the worst possible end.

In the case of those of your ilk, morality wise, he has succeeded.

Care to compare moral tenets?

I did not think so.

Regards
DL

 

That is actually a truly good point........

https://near-death.com/christian-andreason-nde/

The only disagreement that I have with your statement is the word "none" because I think that the proverb that "in the multitude of words there lacks not sin"... is true..... and I sin a lot....... because I write so much........

There is some sin in the best of my writings.....
and a lot of sin in some of my writings when I am having a really good day and I am too optimistic.... or when I have having a bad day and I am kind of depressed...........

.... but this is a technicality and I have to admit that your general idea is correct.



"In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise." (Proverbs 10:19)

I could be wrong... but I am pretty sure that there is a little less sin in all my ramblings than there was ten years ago?????

 

The tipping point is behind us, and things are accelerating beautifully.

Gnostic Christians started killing Yahweh way before the immoral added on Jesus and his Armageddon.

Our love of War has served us well, but only the really immoral will venerate the genocidal gods.

A theology that want's St. Hitler, cannot go un-insulted.

Morality demands that all good Christians send Yahweh and Jesus to hell.

Regards
DL

 

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM THINKING AND FEELING AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to think for a while about the rest of your post though????????

 

Most Gnostic Christian points are.

The heavenly sexuality you quoted of merging light is only available here.

The ancients knew this, and that is why they tried to sanctify reproductive sex, and created well respected Temple Prostitutes and their societal role.

Saving lives, basically, and driving the economy in areas where resources were scarce.

Light can be seen here. In heaven, there is no light. There is only thought.

A naturalist can likely envision that, but I doubt that those who believe in the supernatural will, God, and all of us, just end as subatomic thought particles.

The problem with the supernatural is that if there is one such realm, it's own proof of reality and ability to hide must be prevalent and it thus follows that there would be many supernatural realm.

Regards
DL

 

How about Christ Himself when He blesses people in the form of a Cross? So then are words even needed? There have been over 12 thousand testimonies of cures in the past few years, and growing at the Church of Saint Isadore and the Chapel of Saint Jude at Lykavettos Mountain in Athens.

But it's not the only place, there are also shrines at Saint Nektarios at Aegina, The Assumption of Our Theotokou at Tino, and many, many others. Right now though Saint Isadore and Saint Jude is the most prominent since Christ's cures everyone through Father Demetrios' faith within 30 days.

When Father Demetrios gives the blessings with the Cross, there are thousands of people in attendance, and they come from all over the world. At one time he was on his feet for 20 hours straight, and that was after hours of fasting and prayers to make himself worthy of holding the Cross.

People come from all over, including Catholics, Protestants and even Muslims. God's never holds back His love from those who want it.

The Cross Father Demetrios holds has cured the crippled, the blind, terminal cancer, drug addiction, marital problems, etc. One girl even found an occupation after 6 years. Everyone is cured within 30 days, but each case is different.

He told one parent that his blind boy will be cured, and the next day they found a doctor in Germany who was able to perform the operation. Father Demetrios told the parents not to worry, and that the Cross will be guiding the doctor's hand.

This girls sight was restored.


This girl had Multiple Sclerosis and was brought from the hospital in Patra and literally carried up the mountain.


On 9:20 you'll see a girl who was also a cripple and gave her crutch's to Father as a testimony. All the crutch's in the church have the name of the people who were cured, as well as the names of the doctors and hospitals.


Here's another woman who was cured of Multiple Sclerosis.

 

He's not a child. His name tells you who he is as well as the language he uses in reference to God. Who else thinks of himself as greater than God, other than Satan and his followers? This is why his reasoning is upside down.

Hee, hee, hee!

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Jesus was a man and could not bless anyone any more than you or I can.

Jesus is a teacher. Not a blesser.

You would use him as your savior even while ignoring how immoral it is as you run from discussions on it.

When you have to run from your moral interpretation of a bible, ????????

Regards
DL