CDC director says over 75% of covid deaths were people with “at least four comorbidities”

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  1. The Ant

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    I think of this commentary that I saw elsewhere, whenever I think of the crazier edge of the right wing and their response to current issues….

    “They told you that Covid was a hoax
    They told you it would disappear in the spring
    They told you it was no worse than the flu
    They told you that you could cure it by injecting disinfectants
    They told you that you could treat it with horse de-wormer
    They told you children were immune
    They told you the vaccine was fatal

    And you believed it all.

    They told you the election was 'stolen'
    They told you they had the 'evidence'
    They told you that their audits would show it
    They told you that their lawyers could prove it in court

    And you believed it all.

    They told you January 6 was 'just another tourist day' at the Capitol
    They told you it was BLM, antifa, and the Democrats who rioted
    They told you it was the FBI staging a false flag operation
    They told you it was a peaceful protest
    They even told you it actually never happened

    And you believed it all.
     
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    If there was any integrity here, the 1st post itself which is pressing massive misinformation, would have been removed the minute we found out the video was edited.
     
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    Because not every comorbidity is equal, and most aren't inherent. Most are due to life style choices. Choices that can change and should change.
     
  4. mudman

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    Shocking how many of these are outright lies while most are, at best, exaggerations or are taken way out of context.

    Now this is the part where you tell me to prove you wrong and then I point out how you made all the baseless statements so you can prove them.

    As far as the election stuff goes....yea, some are hung up on it and because a real investigation was never done they'll continue to be hung up on it.
     
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    If overdosed means being dosed to combat the original strain of Covid that has burned itself out or Omicron which shouldn't be feared, then yes, we're being overdosed.

    Besides as I posted earlier, the experimental vaccinations/boosters change your immune system every time you get the jab. There's a lot to be said about natural immunity or herd immunity which gov't epidemiologist bureaucrats have completely ignored.:roflol:
     
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  6. The Ant

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    So, do you consider yourself to be part of the “crazier edge of the right wing”, to whom that commentary was primarily addressed…??
     
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    No.

    Do you believe yourself to be part of the "crazier edge of the left wing" for believing those things you typed were actually true?
     
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    spot on
     
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    Yes . and 96 % of Deaths have at least one comorbidity. Leaving 4 out of 100. 9 out of 10 of which die from pneumonia (immune compromized-pneumonia succeptible) .. leaving 4 out of 1000 .. that "Might" be someone without comorb .. immune compromized

    75% are going to be Overweight .. leaving 1 in 1000 that might be .. and have not factored in the one old person who happens to not be Obese or have any of the aboe. .. but lets go with this .. as is a good rough estimate. .. Similar calc can be done for those showing up in the ICU .. or at hospital in general.

    So when they say "Unvaxed showing up at hospital" .. this is not all "Unvaxed" ... and there is the rub .. the false narrative .. the lie that is being touted. its the "Unvaxed" who are immune compromized .. folks who could most benefit from the Jab .. as they could really use a good boost of antibodies. This is not the case for someone unvaxed with healthy immune response . never mind natural immunity having had covid.

    This is the evil game going on... the big lie .. turning Utilitarianism .. which in of itself is an anathema to the founding principle . into fallacious Utilitarianism..
     
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    But was speaking about the effectiveness of those vaccinated. As the was the question GMA host asked, prior to the response.
    Those vaccinated with 4 or more comorbidities still die at a 75% rate.
     
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    Don't read very good do you? Let me guess, on-line school?
     
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    Nope…I would be one of the first to criticise someone wanting a negative disproven.

    Since this thread is Covid-based, let me address each of the items in that commentary that deal with that topic…

    They told you Covid is a hoax:

    Literally taken, the commentator could have been more precise. T**** actually claimed that his opponents’ criticism of his mishandling was a ‘hoax’, but remember this is addressed to the crazy fringe of the right wing….and many of them just saw the words “T****, Covid, hoax’ and their tiny brains could go no further:

    “It’s a hoax. There’s no pandemic. As Trump said, how many millions die of flu?” said the 56-year-old truck driver outside the early voting station in St Joseph, Missouri – a stronghold for the president.
    It’s political. I don’t trust the US government at all. Who are they to mandate personal safety? I listen to Trump.“

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mp-base-stays-loyal-president-fights-covid-19

    They told you it would disappear in the Spring:

    “You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April.”
    President Trump
    February, 10 2020

    “It’s going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month. And, if not, hopefully it will be soon after that.”
    President Trump
    March 31, 2020

    They told you it was no worse than the flu:

    “On Monday, when Trump tweeted that the coronavirus was not as perilous as the flu, he said, “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!””

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...public-pandemic-researchers-say-idUSKBN2102GY

    They told you that you could cure it by injecting disinfectant:


    And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?


    "So it'd be interesting to check that."

    Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177

    They told you you could treat it with horse dewormer:

    “In early September, podcast host Joe Roganignited controversy when he claimed to be taking the antiparasitic drug ivermectin after contracting COVID-19. Ivermectin, which has not been proven to effectively treat the virus, first entered the national consciousness earlier this year, when conservatives and anti-vaxxers began touting it as a miracle DIY COVID treatment.”
    And it’s the animal version right-wingers have apparently rushed to purchase, emptying feedstores around the country and ignoring safety warnings.”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/joe-rogan-cnn-horse-dewormer-covid

    They told you children were immune:

    “If you look at children, children are almost — I would almost say definitely — but almost immune from this disease. So few — they’ve gotten stronger. Hard to believe. I don’t know how you feel about it, but they have much stronger immune systems than we do, somehow, for this. And they don’t have a problem. They just don’t have a problem,” Trump said.

    https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-...05-20-intl/h_2ed295f7b20341347a05e903d73f0b26

    They told you the vaccine was fatal:

    “The claim, made in a post that has been screenshot and shared on social media platforms, says French virologist Luc Montagnier “has confirmed that there is no chance of survival for people who have received any form of the vaccine”.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-health-coronavirus-idUSL2N2ND0WS

    There……….
     
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    Your very first quote proves yourself wrong. You said 'they said covid was a hoax'. In your quote it's referring to the democrats reaction to covid as the hoax....not the same. And yea, the democrats reaction to covid has been purely motivated by politics and not science.

    The horse dewormer quote is pure bullshit. NOBODY said you could treat it with horse dewormer. Ivermectin has MANY uses and it won a nobel prize and it was NOT because of it's use as a horse dewormer.

    Yes, many thought it would dissipate when the weather got warmer....so what? In fact, I'm betting that damn near everybody was hoping it would dissipate when the weather got warmer.

    The injecting disinfectant has been disproved so many times I'm actually surprised you tried to resurrect this argument. Trump was crystal clear in that he was referring to research and not actually injecting disinfectant directly.

    At the time Trump compared it to the flu was it worse than the flu? Also, nothing in your quote specifically says it's not as bad as the flu. He's clearly pointing out that nothing shuts down during flu season (he's right) but with covid we're shutting everything down.

    Regarding your 'children are immune' quote you again prove yourself wrong with your own quote. "Almost immune" and "immune" are not equivalent. Also, kids are FAR more resistant to covid just as was quoted. In fact, the flu poses a much bigger risk to children than covid which brings to light the left completely ignoring science when it comes to kids.

    The last quote is possibly the worst. You found one nut who said it was fatal....so what. Your lie here is that you claimed we believed him. Maybe a gullible few did, but you're clearly not referring to a gullible few.
     
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    Read “well”, not “good”. “Good” is an adjective, not an adverb.
     
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    You didn’t read a word of what I said, did you...? I sincerely hope you are not one of the tiny-brained, crazy fringe of the right, TO WHOM THIS WAS ADDRESSED, so I invite you to go back and actually read what I wrote, rather than what you think I wrote...
     
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    Getting back to @Steve N's first post. It should be given a correction. Especially now that the unedited video is online for all to see. She NEVER said 75% of all Covid deaths had 4 comorbidities.

    Although she did give data proving the vaccine effectiveness.
     
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    I responded to the 'evidence' you presented. And 'you' didn't actually say much at all, you just provided quotes which is what I responded to.

    You clearly didn't like it. Guess you'll have to get over it.
     
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    I did...and I posted them....YOU refuse to accept them

    Have a nice day
     
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    I think the CDC's relationship with the American people was badly harmed "when business owners were forced to stay home and parents were forced to pull their kids out of school, yet social justice protesters and leftist activists were permitted to flood the streets in protest. You weren’t allowed to open your business, but they were allowed to burn it down."

    https://spectatorworld.com/topic/media-suddenly-notices-cdc-clueless/

    And having Fauci as the spokesmodel, when he has been on so many sides of so many issues, isn't a good idea.

    When CDC guidance appears to be to kowtow to the Teacher's Unions or bolster Dementia Joe's poll numbers, that's problematic as well.
     
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    It's the leftist way... not addressing what is actually being said...
     
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    QED of the typical leftist response whenever said leftist is faced with unrelenting intelligent discourse. (This typically involves things such as: throwing a hissy fit, name calling, repeating the same defeated arguments over and over, running away, demanding censorship, and etc)
     
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    People die of the flu and common cold every year too.

    We should mandate everybody hide in their basements.

    There is a thing called over-reacting. That's what's happening
     
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    People died as a result of 1/6... We should mandate the government no longer has to change every 4 years (starting now)
     
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    So? The OP Link Title is Fake News?
    The OP Title is just MORE Mischaractertized RW BS?:bored:
    Par for the course...:smh:

    Also, the RW Tinfoil Hat Lunatic who put that BS CRAP on Twitter had the Post DELETED.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1480566096113680388?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1480566096113680388|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://csnbbs.com/thread-939876.html

    (This thread is a poster child for why Stand-Alone Twitter Posts should NEVER be allowed as a "source" to start an OP in Current Events.)
     
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    Ah.... so that 75% was for vaccinated people only?? And the OP is crap?

    This is my shocked face...

    The only claim more ridiculous than that would be....... racking my brain here..... if somebody actually made the claim you need a photo ID and vaccine proof to GO OUTSIDE in Washington DC starting Saturday.

    I mean, could you imagine??
     
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