CDC director says over 75% of covid deaths were people with “at least four comorbidities”

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  1. Egoboy

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    I'm still mystified why any of that would matter to anybody.... half of this country probably has 1 comorbidity

    People died, many to most of whom didn't need to..... Was tragic in 2020 before vaccines.... Now it's just ridiculous after them...
     
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    Yes.

    Same goes for basic science, basic logic, basic economics, basic history, and a number of other topics...
     
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    I already told you why. It means that people are not dying from COVID (but rather from other causes).

    True in a way. They could have taken better care of themselves by eating a better diet, exercising more, reducing their stress, getting outside more, and other things. In the end, though, everyone is going to die. The wages of sin is death.

    Yup... Vaccines are killing more people than COVID is. COVID in and of itself doesn't kill, as it is the pneumonia that sometimes gets induced that is actually the beginning of the causal chain of death.
     
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    Why does it matter then?
     
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    What the CDC Director said matters because she's now admitting what people such as myself have been saying all along, which is that people are NOT dying FROM covid, but are rather already unwell to begin with (and are instead dying from other causes but happen to possibly have a covid infection at the time).
     
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    It was 100% edited. She went on to speak of the specifics. Y’all are extrapolating from a study of 36 people.

    Walensky was referring to a study that used data from U.S. healthcare facilities to look at more than 12 million adults who completed "primary vaccination" between December 2020 to October 2021. Among the tiny percentage of those who died (36 people), 78% suffered from at least four comorbidities.“

    Jesus, that is NOT her point at all. She was talking about vaccinated deaths. Not all Covid-19 deaths.

    Your post are blatant misinformation. Even fox news knows better.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-edited-out-cdc-directors-answer-vaccine-confusion
     
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    No, it wasn't.

    ... such as?

    I'm going by the words that she said.

    Also, the study that you mention below had more than 36 people (at least according to how you are mentioning it). You are mentioning that a small subset of people in the study died. That means that the study involved a lot more than 36 people.

    According to that study, as you have quoted, 78% of people dying have at least 4 comorbidities.

    Yes, it is. She specifically said that over 75% of people classified as "COVID deaths" had at least 4 comorbidities, and that they were people who were already unwell to begin with. That is her own words, not mine.

    No, my post (and this thread) is regarding the specific words that the CDC Director herself said. Is she not a "trustworthy source"??

    I do not accept Fox News as a source. You cannot use it as a source with me. The CDC Director speaks for herself. She is the source here, not Fox News.
     
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    Half the country is unwell, Covid killed those who died. They’d be alive otherwise.
     
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    Again you are incorrect and spreading misinformation. She was talking about the vaccinated from a study of 36 parents in which 4 died. Watch the unedited video on Foxnews.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-news-edited-out-cdc-directors-answer-vaccine-confusion


    “ABC News released the unedited version which showed Walensky detailing the study before her remarks about the "overwhelming number of deaths."

    "You know, really important study," Walensky said. "If I may just summarize it, a study of 1.2 million people who were vaccinated between December [of 2020] and October and demonstrated that severe disease occurred in about 0.015 percent of the people who received their primary series, and death in .003 percent of those people."

    The unedited clip added a little more than 20 seconds to the interview's length, and it made clear she was talking about the CDC study. The full video is up on the show's YouTube channel as well
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    Wouldn't surprise me if that were the case (or even more than half).

    Nope. Pneumonia, heart disease, liver disease, stroke, diabetes, obesity, and on and on, is what killed them.

    Nope. They were already dying of other causes.
     
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    If your vaccinated. Not so much if you aren’t.
     
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    I literally posted the core quotes form the studies. But hey, ignorance remains blissfull
     
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    No, that's what you're doing.

    Now you're changing your story. You first were quoting a study in which a small subset of people (36 of them) died. Now you're quoting a study of 36 people in which 4 of them died. You are all over the place. Neither of your claims seems to be what your quote from the Fox News article is speaking about, which is a study of 1.2 million people (in which about 3,600 people died, or about 0.003% of them).

    I do not accept Fox News as a source. You cannot use Fox News as a source with me. The CDC Director herself is the authoritative source at hand here with regard to the topic of this thread, and she said that over 75% of people who were labeled as "COVID-deaths" had four or more comorbidities. She also said that such people were already unwell to begin with.
     
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    And those core quotes don’t rectify the absurd manner in which their data was collected, nor does it change the fact you actually thought that wearing a mask is to protect you lol.

    ignorance is bliss
     
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    Doesn't matter whether vaccinated or not. People dying of other causes are people dying of other causes. Vaccination status doesn't change that.
     
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    The unedited video is in that link.

    Everyone is free to go to that site watch the unedited version and find that you are incorrect. I will make it easy for you.

     
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    I've watched her speak. I know what she said. Nothing was deceptively edited.
     
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    How do you know how they collected the data ?

    You have to be standing to pull that kind of stuff out
     
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    They admitted it and posted the unedited version online. If you are going to refuse to acknowledge that, then you are just being obstinate and have lost all credibility.
     
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    ~ Unfortunately they may actually be doing more harm than good .
     
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    To quote a comic I read as a kid, dying is a long way from dead.
     
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    Reminds me of that interview with Jordan Peterson. “So what you are saying is...” and completely misrepresents him lmao.
     
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    ~ This is what some are now fearful of. It appears we could be overdosed ... :sad:
     
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    You can read the studies lol
     
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    Thanks for confirming my original diagnosis of you as a poster....Welcome to official ignore, since PF.com doesn't remove your ilk....
     
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