If you refuse the vaccine, you don't matter. It's the people you infect that matter!

This entire thread is an exercise in pre-adolescent reasoning. Not getting a shot (that doesn't prevent covid spread anyway) and then breathing in public is NOT reckless behavior. I'd be embarrassed if I were the OP.

 

That's complete bunk, and if you bothered rubbing a few brain cells together, you'd know it. But, I'll go ahead and explain it to you using but a single example. I thought of 6 or 8, and if I really tried hard, could probably come up with 60 or 80, but one will do.

Every time you get behind the wheel of an automobile, you are putting others lives in danger, yet neither you nor anybody else is endorsing banning cars, though I'm sure eventually, it will become the boogie man of the week and someone will make a go at it. But unless you are that someone, and this week is that week, your statement, and entire hypothesis based on it, is complete and utter nonsense.

There's really nothing more to say.

 

-If you get behind the wheel of an automobile, and follow DoT regulations, you could still kill somebody but you are doing your due diligence.

-If you come into contact with others and follow CDC regulations, you could still infect somebody, but you are doing your due diligence.

But here is the funny part: you actually believed that you could come up with something I haven't addressed in this (and similar) threads a dozen times? YOU???? Hilarious!

I would recommend, in the future, you read the thread you are jumping into before making such inane comments. Oh... and, by all means, read my sig. You can be SURE that if I make a point, I will have done basic research and considered most counter-arguments (maybe not all, but most). So you damn better do yours as well.

 

I think anyone afraid of the virus, should simply stay home.

 

The vaccine does little to protect me from being infected, and so does little to prevent me from infecting others. 99% of masks in common use, as they are being used, don't protect anyone from covid either.

I am vaccinated, and wear a mask whenever required to in public. But I don't fool myself into believing they are doing anything to prevent transmission of covid.

 

So people who understand and follow the science are hostage to people who don't?

Looks like you didn't put much "thinking" into that one.

 

Why would anyone (not here, in general) be able to differentiate "dead" and "alive" if they are unable to differentiate "career criminal" and "upstanding citizen"?

 

At least in outward appearance there was little difference between Mafia Boss John Gotti and noted politician Michael Pence except that Gotti's clothing was considerably more expensive. If, however, Pence were alive and Gotti dead there would be many readily apparent differences, not least of which would be the smells of the two individuals

 

AU, can you translate that for me? What are you trying to convey?

 

There isn't lot of difference between career criminals and upstanding citizens in outward appearance, but quite a lot between people who are alive and people who are dead.

 

And everyone knows that and nobody cares.

The vaccine prevents you from getting sick and then going into a hospital to use up scarce resources. If it were just you that would die without using up a hospital bed and the precious services of several doctors and nurses no one would care that you wished to commit suicide but it is not and therefore we necessarily must.

 

What is it about individual liberty you don't understand?

Yes, people who want to get vaccinated and wear masks have an individual right to do so, and others who don't want to get vaccinated and wear masks have a right to their choices as well. Yeah, we both have to live together even when we put others at risk. Peabody is right, that's the way it is.

 

That nonsense has been debunked in this thread countless times. There is no "right" to infect others with a deadly disease.

 

True. But, my comment was to point out the notion that the Orange Stain is CLEARLY a career criminal and some of his more rabid supporters gloss over or ignore his decades long history of financial fraud. Therefore, your expectation that some of them might be able to make the distinction between "dead" and "alive" is quite hefty.

 

In fact, it does nothing to protect one from being infected, as that's not the function of a vaccine. A vaccine trains one's adaptive immune system to be better at responding to a specific virus, which should lead to the recipient not becoming symptomatic upon exposure (or at worst quite mildly symptomatic).

In fact, it does nothing to prevent one from infecting others, as that's also not the function of a vaccine. If one is sick, then one can potentially spread their sickness to others, regardless of being vaccinated or not. Someone who is not sick cannot spread anything to anyone, as he/she doesn't have anything to spread.

In fact, 100% of masks in common use, no matter how they are used, don't protect anyone from COVID.

I am not vaccinated, and outside of work (wearing one below my nose) or if I would ever need to go into a hospital, I adamantly refuse to wear a mask anywhere in public (whether or not there happens to be a government-required-to-be-posted sign on the door of where I am entering)... I've done that since the very beginning of this bullshit.

If mask mandates do return after they soon get lifted in the commie Dane County, I will purposely start walking into stores wearing a mask around my wrist as a shackle to make a visual statement about what these mandates are truly about. If asked to put one on, I will hold up my wrist and say that I already have one on. I'm beyond fed up with the bullshit.

Neither do I.

 

What about people that work outside the home?

 

That's what the Democrat Party is doing to people such as myself via their tyrannical mandates, yes.

Projection. You are the one who is parroting The Science™ rather than science.

 

Then, if "everyone knows" neither vaccine nor masks mitigate spread, why have there been vaccine and mask requirements to enter public places? Why has there been a halt to our economy?

 

Debunked? What a joke! Maybe debunked in the swamp of your mind.

 

The hatefulness by some posters astounds me.

Someone I know said she thinks it's funny when an unvaccinated person dies. How about if I say I think it's funny when someone vaccinated dies? Should we laugh that they were such fools as to believe the vaccine would keep them alive? What a lack of humanity.

 

You can actually buy a "Trump Won" mask. Put that on if someone tells you to put on your mask. That'll teach 'em...

 

If DOT regs didn't make a difference you wouldn't be.

The so called "vaccine" doesn't seem to do much in preventing spread.

No you aren't. You are participating in a religious ritual that has no real effect.

Addressing something with false assumptions didn't really matter to anybody else but you.

So you appeal to authority? La-di-da.

 

I could... or I could just refuse to join in on the silly leftist reindeer games to begin with.

 

If you refuse the vaccine, you don't matter. It's the people you infect that matter!

The trick would be to find credible science to back up this opinion. It would be old, stale science.

 

Is there some part of "IT DOESN'T STOP THE SPREAD"!!!! you don't seem to understand? How is that following any science? Science dictated long term testing for nasty side effects.