If you refuse the vaccine, you don't matter. It's the people you infect that matter!

Quarantine and stay at home orders facilitate spread of diseases like Hepatitis and staphylococcus. Fact. You support government policy that facilitates transmission of disease. Fact. Therefore the right to transmit disease exists. And you support it! Fact.

Yes, I suppose biology and epidemiology are considered juvenile by folks like you who are habitual deniers of science. The appeal to the stone fallacy is nice though.

I temporarily accept your concession. There will be more posts to come pointing out the false premises of the thread opening post. Stay tuned. LOL

 

Everyone has the right to make individual choices. If you want to live in a world where governments mandates every aspect of your life, you’re welcome to it. Most us do not want to, and will not, live in such a world.

 

You still don't understand that the injection didn't change the fact that people can catch, carry and transmit COVID. The individual may not have as bad symptoms as other people, but they can still die from COVID. They can still carry the virus, and they can still infect other people.

It's fact. No matter how much you want to believe otherwise, there is no magic injection that will stop people from carrying COVID and transmitting it. So, in this particular situation, your attempt at playing strawman is a fail.

 

COVID continues to claim lives despite everything the lefties have been advocating: masks, lockdowns, social distancing, vaccinations, boosters, and whining like stuck pigs. Get over it, everyone will eventually get COVID and vaccines will not stop it.

 

Another one who won't say it. I understand. I'm sure it IS embarrassing to be forced by partisan dogma to believe that there is a "right" to put the life of others at risk by acting recklessly. Thanks anyway....

 

Yes it did! But it's been over a year of us trying to explain to Trump loyalists the science behind how vaccines (not just this one, but all of them) work. I guess it's too complex for anybody who is used to seeing the world in a binary way. So I'm not going to try. There are many threads that do that.

 

So, diverting to a sad 'Trump loyalist' statement, which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the FACT that the injection did not prevent the continuing transmission is just beyond the grasp of those who dismiss FACTS.

Rather sad to see it in play, but someday, you may understand that changing the definition of a word, does not actually change what the injection is. It reduces a person's own response to the infection. Nothing more. It doesn't protect anyone else. So that hot selling point was questioned, then out right debunked, while some swallowed propaganda, and others questioned what they were being told.

Sorry if that makes some people uncomfortable.

 

Yes, every human being has the right to put the lives of others at risk. It comes as a natural element of nature. I have no problem stating it.

BTW, sorry to have to tell you this, vaccinated people still die and still infect others. Oh well, there goes your narrative.

 

I'm waiting for Biden's administration to mandate that all un vaccinated people wear an arm band with a big yellow "U" on it so the unvaxed can be spotted easily.

 

Who said the purpose of vaccines was to "prevent the continuing transmission"? Again: binary thinking will get you nowhere.

 

We’ll need to tie bells to our burlap robes and call out “UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN.” as we walk.

 

Unfortunately, it's an 'everything but' situation.

Coercion to the point of using businesses as a ramrod based on losing your job for not complying, is well beyond the pale.

 

No! Try again: "... put the lives of others at risk by acting recklessly". State it explicitly, if you can. And while you are struggling with saying it clearly and explicitly, ask yourself why you left out the part that is in bold. Answer that to yourself, not to me. Because I already know the answer.

 

You really didn't just say that, did you? Is your memory that lagging? Think back, if you will, to about 15 months ago.....

Which new band wagon suits you, until it too is proven wrong? Thinking for one's self eliminates that problem, you know. Try it, you'll like it!

 

So, you get to decide what’s “reckless and what isn’t?” What a surprise. Get over yourself, you put people at risk every day simply by living.

 

No! YOU get to decide. I defer judgement to YOU. Are you noticing all this tap dancing you are doing to avoid saying it? That's because your party instructs you to believe it, but you are embarrassed to explicitly admit that it's what you believe!

 

Why is not getting vaxed reckless? Fully vaxed and boosted people still catch Covid and still spread it. What's your point?

 

Since we put others at risk by simply driving a car or truck, why not ban them too.

 

Oh my, someone’s upset.

 

But, if the vaccine is so effective even if not preventing the virus it lessens the symptoms, how does not getting one affect anyone's right to life but my own?

 

We're not talking about not getting vaxxed. We're talking about some "right" that the poster claims (but refuses to state explicitly) exist to put the life of others at risk by acting recklessly.

 

So you are unable to say it. I'm actually very happy. My point is made! What could be better than that?

 

Read the OP.

 

Exactly! Tens of thousands of our fellow American die ever year due to the risk of driving.

 

Your point was destroyed long ago,