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American families still adopting children from other countries

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by kazenatsu, Feb 26, 2022.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't....it varies from person to person and time to time....

    Some people think it's immoral to dance or gamble or drink....should we all have to stop doing those things??
    UNANSWERED QUESTION :)


    The word can have one meaning but be interpreted many ways ....I see why you had to cherry pick my post ;)
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 8, 2022
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  2. unkotare

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    I've seen what happens for myself more than a few times. It does not create life, it brings a living human from the womb to the room. Keep trying to convince yourself otherwise. Maybe that helps you ignore the moral problem.
     
    unkotare, Mar 8, 2022
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    Only by those trying to talk their way around a moral question.
     
    unkotare, Mar 8, 2022
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  4. FoxHastings

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    Then why do you think "magic" is involved....and watching it does not mean you know what's happening.

    Why ? I agree.


    What moral problem? I can easily ignore your moral problem.
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 8, 2022
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  5. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Morals vary from person to person and time to time....

    Some people think it's immoral to dance or gamble or drink....should we all have to stop doing those things??
    UNANSWERED QUESTION :)

    I have no reason to "talk my way around a moral question" since I do not think abortion is immoral...

    You do, so don't have one...
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 8, 2022
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    Cost my cousin about $65K on their adoption of an american kid. Maybe the third world is cheaper. IDK.
     
    Chrizton, Mar 8, 2022
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  7. unkotare

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    I don't, but you sure seem to.
     
    unkotare, Mar 8, 2022
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    Trying so hard to convince yourself. I pity you.
     
    unkotare, Mar 8, 2022
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  9. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

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    I've written books on the subject.
     
    unkotare, Mar 8, 2022
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  10. FoxHastings

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roll: Starting to go off topic and get personal....thought you learned ...;)
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 8, 2022
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    :roflol::roflol::roll::roflol::roflol::roflol: Uh, no, if you had you wouldn't have insisted birth only takes a second...
     
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  12. unkotare

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    I didn't say it took a second. Are you now trying to say that someone becomes partly human before they have fully emerged from the birth canal? Just how ridiculous are you prepared to become to cling to your immoral position?
     
    unkotare, Mar 8, 2022
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    Yup, you did.....my position isn't immoral NOR is it the topic.....I thought you may have learned something lately about that ;)
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 8, 2022
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  14. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you have an alternative written into the law where the woman would not be punished for the abortion if she pled guilty to using crack while pregnant?
     
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    Well okay then. How dare you tell us we can't punish women and try to protect the unborn. Moral relativity, remember, so how can you say with certainty that's wrong?

    Well it is immoral to drink... too much... while pregnant.

    Also promiscuous sex while pregnant - with people who are not the father - can be pretty bad too.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    No, it isn't....it varies from person to person and time to time....



    Only in your opinion....it's a stupid thing to do but not immoral to many people... everything isn't about "morals".

    If one wants to preach "morals" there is a Religion Forum...
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 8, 2022
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are pro-choicers doing when they preach that women should have the right to abort?
     
    kazenatsu, Mar 8, 2022
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will you admit it's a stupid thing to do to abort your unborn child when there are plenty of other great families who would want it?
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Only in your opinion....it's a stupid thing to do but not immoral to many people... everything isn't about "morals".

    If one wants to preach "morals" there is a Religion Forum...


    Preaching that women have the right to abort.

    Rights aren't about religion...


    "Preaching" isn't necessarily religious...preaching about morals is..
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    ...it's a stupid thing to do but not immoral to many people...


    No.

    It's stupid to think women owe other people kids..

    Why are you wavering from what we were actually discussing????
     
    FoxHastings, Mar 8, 2022
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that all you can think about?
    So this has nothing to do with the child.

    The welfare of that little life growing in there doesn't enter the equation at all to you.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Her career will not be on hold for 9 months. Maybe only 4 months.
    Many women don't even realize they're pregnant until 5 or 6 months have already passed.

    And did you realize that many would-be adoptive couples will even pay a birth mother some extra money for her inconvenience if she agrees to adopt to them?

    Heck, some surrogate moms even turn giving birth into a career.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And what if two persons are joined together, like in the horror film Human Centipede?
    Do they then lose their rights, in your twisted philosophy?
     
    kazenatsu, Mar 8, 2022
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    No, I really didn't.
     
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    unkotare Well-Known Member

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    By definition, it is.
     
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