What are the motives of abortion doctors? Should these affect the abortion debate?

We indeed do live in a very sick world where some people compare unborn life to parasites.

Mankind is f**ked up to the maximum extent. Please, Mr. Pootin, nuke us all!

 

an early-stage fetus is functionally equivalent to a parasite before developing consciousness. it leeches off of the mother, stuck in her body, providing nothing in return, and to kill it would not destroy a sentient soul. i think it's a perfectly valid comparison.

 

Nope, it's misanthropic nonsense dressed up as popular science. Makes me very sad. Why are you lefties so life-negating? What causes your paranoia?

 

a tapeworm is alive too. if anything, i appreciate life more than you! i also don't see any paranoia here from anyone

 

What is "smarter" ? People still kill children.


Couldn't address my entire post? Why was that?

 

But today they disguise their bloodlust as women's rights. That's truly disgusting!

BTW, personally, I'm very concerned about this topic. I and my wife once thought about abortion. We didn't and are very happy about it.

I believe that most people who support abortion have never been confronted with it personally.

 

LOL, what hyperbolic BS...

We didn't and are very happy about it.
OH so you entertained the idea of "blood lust!

"believing " doesn't make anything true and I support women's right to their own bodies, the right to CHOOSE abortion...you obviously don't think women should have the exact same right as you have.

BTW, here's the TOPIC:
What are the motives of abortion doctors? Should these affect the abortion debate?

 

that's great! i'm glad you made a decision that you feel comfortable with. why does that mean that everyone else has to make the exact same decision?

do you also believe that you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on a war if you aren't a soldier in it? you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on gay marriage if you aren't gay?

 

Medicine isn't really a great place to get rich. The draw financially is it's stable and predictable. But it's a LOT of work, so it's not something anybody should get into unless they really enjoy it or believe in it.

If you make it into medical school, there's a 98% chance you'll be comfortable in terms of earning potential. A profitable business venture will get you much more money for much less effort, but the odds of success are also lower. Moneywise, the person who goes into medicine is the person who prefers a 98% chance to make at least 100k per year, rather than a 20% chance or whatever of making millions per year vs failing and making less than 100k per year. There are some doctors who go off and start medical businesses as well, but the small-business model of being a doctor is phasing out.

A doctor who cares about money more than people wouldn't WANT to be in ob/gyn of any type. They would be in the ROAD specialties. Radiology, orthopedics, anesthesiology, dermatology. Those are specialties that are well-compensated and allow for a reasonable lifestyle. I think my specialty of pathology is also good for lifestyle, but medical students are generally unaware this specialty even exists, lol. Some specialties like plastics, neurosurgery and cardiac surgeons also make good money, but don't have time to enjoy it. The issue with all of those specialties though is they're hard to get into, and many medical students are simply not competitive enough to get that residency/fellowship. But still, if they were uncompetititive and cared about money, probably emergency medicine

Most abortion doctors believe in women's health, and do not see the fetus they abort as an actual person. It's pretty easy to justify that in the 1st and 2nd trimesters given the fetus clearly has no mind. And there's quite a bit of murkiness in terms of what a fetus is capable of in the 3rd trimester and when. They believe the woman is the patient, and the fetus isn't really a person yet. If they believed the fetus were a person, they would have trouble believing in what they do and would be doing a different specialty.

 

As I already said, during pregnancy a woman's body doesn't belong to her alone.

The right to choose abortion is like the right to choose to help someone who is in a life-threatening situation. Might be a right, but not an option.

 

okay, so you agree it's a legal right? great, we're in agreement!

 

From the quote of the other thread: "if you listen to most late-term abortion doctors who have been willing to openly talk about this subject, they are very cynical."

I first have to question how many late term abortion doctors do they think are actually out there? I would honestly like to know where they are getting the idea those doctors are cynical.

 

That lie sailed long ago.

 

That is a ridiculous contention. There are many abortion doctors who have put up with constant harassing, death threats, being personae non grata, at local hospitals-- and why, because the abortion money is so good? That is beyond imbecilic.

If a doctor is all about the money, they go into cosmetic surgery. If they lack the skill, it's still a lot easier to be a dermatologist, than an abortionist, and almost certainly pays better, as well.

 

LOL, try to prove that using fact, logic and law...you can't........

Duh, if it's a right it IS an option.duhhhhhhhhhh

 

I've never denied the existence of that right. I'm just saying that it is immoral and misanthropic to claim that right.

A right doesn't automatically mean that the idea behind it is good.
In Nazi Germany, Jews were lawfully persecuted and murdered.
In Pootin's Russia, if you criticize the dictator, you go to prison for years by law.

 

You were the one who used the phrase first in this thread. It is you that needs to explain what you mean by it.

 

And do you have a source for this "catechism" of Eugenics? Personally, since you made things up about Sanger, I'm pretty sure that you are making things up about eugenics as well.

 

These are her words. "“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,” she wrote. She was a staunch supporter of Eugenics, believing in the elimination of mentally and physically deficient progeny. She had lots of ideas that the left, today, have gone to great lengths to whitesplain to us. And why all that effort if she wasn't actually the monster that lots of us think she is today? Because her legacy is the legacy of millions of aborted minority babies. And leftist, like Sanger said in her own words, must be straightened out of that idea so no one actually notices what she was about. Sorry if that offends your modern sensibilities, but this has always been about ensuring that minority overpopulation was controlled.

And read this well.. Her goal was lofty. To allow poor black folk to not be burdened so by their family size because those large families precluded them from the better things in life. Meaning, birth control/abortion will let black folk become more economically mobile and more likely to achieve and attain wealth of their own. Likely not a complete monster, huh. She reached out to the Klan, she had ties with the leading Eugenicists of the day. And yet, modern liberals may likely not even recognize the word or term, and yet it drove progressive welfare for decades in this country and all over Europe.

 

https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Eugenics-and-Scientific-Racism

Warning, this may be shocking to you... This is what the progressive world devised. ITs the mantra they still live by today.

 

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You have a quote,

 

What has Sanger got to do with the TOPIC? :
What are the motives of abortion doctors? Should these affect the abortion debate?

 

She was talking about BIRTH CONTRO, NOT abortion as she hated abortion.
She knew black women did not trust white doctors, WITH GOOD REASON, and so Sanger asked those people who black women trusted to promote BIRTH CONTROL... See , black women should have had as much right to birth control as white women.

Total unprovable BS!

Sanger hated abortion .

And YOU HAVE NEVER PROVEN ANY BLACK WOMEN WERE FORCED TO ABORT.

And YOU HAVE NEVER PROVEN ANY BLACK WOMEN WERE FORCED TO ABORT.

She was asked by the Klan women to talk about BIRTH CONTROL.
Even though they were vile women they still had a right to know about BIRTH CONTROL

What utter, unproved poppycock !

Sanger has been dead for many years and was not the god you insist she was..

 

NOt sure what happened with my last post. So let me try again.

You have a quote but no source. You have claims but no support. What do you have to show what she said or believed in? I provided my sources.