Ketanji can’t define what a woman is

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Odd that you want to discuss it when you think you've got a point to make and its all nebulous talk, but when points are made against you with case citations all of a sudden its not the place for the conversation.
    Curious, no?

    And the words in the constitution are well fleshed out. Its not like we're interpreting hieroglyphs ffs, we still have original copies of dictionaries that old.
    The words don't change definition. If it was written in the 1700s you use that definition of the term not the modern definition. If that means that you want to change the constitution because you find it outdated: See Article V for the only 2 ways to go about that.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but this whole thread and controversy is silly as cat scat and you all know it. Look up "female bodybuilders" ,choose a weight class and peruse. Now tell me any one of them couldn't beat just about any man in that weight class at any sport where strength was the main thing.
     
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    And it wasn't because she was a woman they did that to her: It was because she was black and therefore a slave under the laws of the day and therefore so were her children because they were also black. What about the man who impregnated her? Were not HIS children sold into slavery? Was HE not divested of the rights, duties, and joys of being a parent because of his race?

    You're so caught up trying to move the goalposts to something you think you can win, you're not thinking clearly. Try harder, its not any fun when you don't struggle.
     
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    One of many consequences of violating women's sports. Eventually the NCAA will come to its senses and remove his victories. The current situation simply cannot stand.
     
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    You show me a female body builder and male body builder in the same weight class and let's have them compete then. Men and women of the same weight and BMI and training regimen are not equal in strength, the male retains biological advantages such as larger heart, lungs, longer levers in the arms and legs etc.
    This is a simple fact of biology. Let it go.
     
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    None of them could beat a man in the comparable physical condition. You know that. Stop making things up.
     
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    Nope, she can't. She doesn't know what a woman is, remember?? So she doesn't even know what SHE is, per her own admission.

    ... there are also biology books available.

    To use the word 'woman' and have it hold any sort of meaning, one must be able to define it. Otherwise, it is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword.

    Marsha Blackburn was asking a question that she already knew the answer to.
     
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    What month of the year is "men's history month"? It is currently women's history month btw...

    What healthcare rights does a man have that a woman doesn't? What seems to be the issue?

    Lia Thomas.

    https://www.espn.com/college-sports...er-athlete-win-division-national-championship

    That's just one of countless examples.

    See above. Already done.
     
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    Nope, Lia Thomas is a man.

    There is no such thing as a "transition". A man remains a man and a woman remains a woman, no matter how much estrogen you pump into him, no matter how much genital mutilation you do to him, etc. etc...

    Nope, you are just denying the examples being presented to you. Apparently you don't know what a man or a woman is either... Maybe you need a biology refresher...

    They can make whatever rules they want, but no rule can change what a man or a woman is.

    So you don't know what a woman is either? Got it.
     
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    Because a number of people wish to delude themselves, for one reason or another, rather than speak the truth...
     
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    He went from king of the hill to 5th place. I’m not the one who said he threw the race, but many others did.

    Why do you refer to him as a woman? What do you base it on?
     
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    Define what a woman is. Thanks.
     
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    Are you saying a 150 female body builder is stronger than a 150 male body builder?
     
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    He shouldn't be competing in women's sports.
     
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    Some of them are, no doubt. This is the whole idea of sports, contests between INDIVIDUALS (or teams of individuals.)
     
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    Show me this 150 lb female bodybuilder that is as strong as the 150lb male bodybuilder then
     
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    So you're arguing for the elimination of sex separate athletic events and teams? Instead of male or female swimming teams, there should just be...one team?
     
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    Why not? Unless you want to have teams just for people who WANT to compete that way. Not the elimination of male/female teams but another one that admits everybody
     
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    Yes it does. If there was no one to consume the sort of thing there would be nobody profiting off of the production of it.
    yeah I saw the first time you made this claim someone who enjoys such material is a pedophile. And such people have one of the highest rates of recidivism so I don't know how much truth there is in that statistic.
    that's the excuse not to address anything blame Q.

    I don't buy it.
    Disagree her being soft on child predators is the worst of her offenses
     
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    How can I do that? The contests that would determine that aren't permitted.
     
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    So you want male/female/ and no opinion teams?

    Which team would Lila Thomas go to?
     
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    In most of these cases, you're talking about people trading images between each other for free over a chat forum. They didn't pay anyone and no one received any money.

    I didn't claim they weren't a pedophile. I said they were not a child predator IE they have had no contact with a minor that was brought into evidence in those cases.
    "And such people have one of the highest rates of recidivism so I don't know how much truth there is in that statistic." < Not non-production first time offenders as we're discussing here. Your stat on highest recidivism applies to those who actually touch a minor.

    Well that's great, because I'm not selling it. Its a fact. Even the national review has discussed this issue and found the great wailing and gnashing of teeth over it pure theatre.

    1) She's not soft on child predators and 2) https://reason.com/volokh/2022/03/20/some-questions-senators-should-ask-ketanji-brown-jackson/ < These are the legitimate concerns I describe, not the pearl clutching over a position she does not hold.
     
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    But you said it was without doubt. Something without doubt can be proven.
    Not permitted? By whom? You telling me you can't find evenly weighted and trained males and females who will do each other's lifts on youtube?
     
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    I can't but I'm not looking. I hate sports
     
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