Kinzinger Introduces Use of Force Resolution against Russia

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Lil Mike, May 3, 2022.

Tags:
  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2020
    Messages:
    5,534
    Likes Received:
    3,122
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I admire nothing about him. He is a retard and a cry baby. And a war monger.

    [​IMG]
     
    Bill Carson likes this.
  2. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2020
    Messages:
    4,173
    Likes Received:
    3,792
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Probably because this conversation is SUPPOSED to be about Adam Kinzinger and a bill introduced in Congress about Ukraine.
    And talk about "big talking"! You're doing a lot of "ass kicking" today! And it's still early! Might want to pace yourself! lol
     
    Thedimon likes this.
  3. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    During those two wars the soviet leadership went from being sure in victory (stage 1), to accepting the fact that things are not working out (stage 2), to giving up and withdrawing (stage 3).
    Russia is inching to the end of the first stage. I think keeping the pressure on will help them to move to stage 2 and then stage 3. Russia is much weaker than USSR, they’ll be at the end of stage 3 sooner than many realize. Pootins regime is a big lie - everything is a lie in Russia now, but you can’t lie your way into building new and better weapons without some western components and they can’t lie themselves into building new alternatives. It took USSR a couple of decades to build up their economy as an independent entity, and that effort required strong regimentation of society and a lot of brutality - russia has none of that now. If we allow Pootin to walk away from this conflict and continue to run russia then he can try to attempt what Stalin did, but I don’t think he’ll live long enough to complete such transformation.
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2022
  4. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    16,448
    Likes Received:
    7,096
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You must be so pissed that Donald Trump was nominated in 2016, as his party's top cry-baby and buffoon over 12 other potential nominees.
     
  5. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2020
    Messages:
    5,534
    Likes Received:
    3,122
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That was mean! Meanie!

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,687
    Likes Received:
    25,625
    Trophy Points:
    113

    The Ukrainians can win if they have long range weapons systems capable of taking out Russian artillery, and cutting off supply lines.

    Trump was not the first to give effective weapons to Ukraine:

    “In response to a request from Ukraine, and as part of our ongoing efforts to bolster Ukraine’s defense and internal security operations, today the United States delivered two AN/TPQ-36 radar systems to Ukraine at a ceremony in Lviv. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko had the opportunity to review the equipment, and was briefed by U.S. military personnel on its capabilities. The radar systems delivered today will help defend Ukrainian military personnel and civilians against rocket and artillery attacks, which have historically been the most lethal threat to Ukrainian personnel and civilians.

    The equipment was delivered on a rapid timeline – less than two months after President Obama delegated to the Secretary of State the authority to draw down up to $20 million in defense articles and services and up to $1.5 million in non-lethal commodities and services to provide these systems to Ukraine.

    The provision of these systems brings our total security assistance committed to Ukraine in response to the crisis to more than $265 million since 2014.”
    Fact Sheet on U.S. Security Assistance for Ukraine, United States Delivers Two Q-36 Counter Battery Radar Systems to Ukraine, By U.S. Embassy Kyiv | 14 November, 2015 .
    https://ua.usembassy.gov/united-states-delivers-two-q-36-counter-battery-radar-systems-ukraine/

    Far more will be needed for Ukraine to achieve a decisive victory over Russia.
    Russia gave North Vietnam thousands of howitzers.
     
  7. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2020
    Messages:
    5,534
    Likes Received:
    3,122
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Show us the video where Trump actually cried. Fake like Schumer or Kingzinger or real.
     
    Thingamabob likes this.
  8. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2020
    Messages:
    5,534
    Likes Received:
    3,122
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Please somebody provide me a link of when Ukraine became part of these United States. I missed it.
     
    Bill Carson and Thingamabob like this.
  9. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2020
    Messages:
    4,173
    Likes Received:
    3,792
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I hope you're kidding!
    I'm not trying to be mean!
    I save mean for real life. It's too easy to be "tough" on the internet! lol
     
  10. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You don’t agree with the resolution.
    We got it.
     
  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,184
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    With all due respect, you simply do NOT know what you are talking about. 1500 nukes is the literal end of the world. AND 1500 is still far, FAR less than would actually be deployed

    https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/02/...ear-bombs-would-it-take-to-destroy-the-world/

    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/nuclear-warheads-by-country-1945-2022/#:~:text=Nuclear Warheads Currently in Possession by Countries&text=As of 2022, about 12,700,, aircraft, ships and submarines.
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2022
  12. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,935
    Likes Received:
    27,453
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pretty much every video there is of him. He was constantly whining, bitching, moaning, shouting, screaming, blubbering and crying with actual tears about anything and everything, including how perfect his extortion attempt against Zelenskyy was.
     
  13. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    16,448
    Likes Received:
    7,096
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Show us the results of an IQ test to prove that Kinzinger is actually developmentally delayed or has a lower IQ than normal?

    See, I can be as literal in my interpretation of your language as you can be of mine!
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2022
  14. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I posted this link in another thread, but here:

    As Russia-Ukraine Tensions Rise, U.S. 'Stress Tests' New Nuclear War Plan

    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukr...ress-tests-new-nuclear-war-plan-1674324?amp=1

    This is a strong indication that our government and military plan not just the survival in the nuclear war - its planning to win it, retain our fighting capability, and move on.
    Think about it. ;)

    Added:
    MAD is a myth. Our government allows everyone to think that MAD is real because such belief prevents Russia from building up more nukes and to assume we have no game plan. But the fact that such exercises are being conducted is a strong indication that we can take on Russia and destroy it. Actions speak louder than words - if Russia has enough nukes to destroy the U.S., why are we spending resources on such planning?
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2022
    Ddyad likes this.
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,184
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Some conservatives have a LOT more balls than brains

    We got that too.
     
  16. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2020
    Messages:
    4,173
    Likes Received:
    3,792
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Link doesn't work for me.
    But just to be clear, they intend for America to survive.
    And it would. But I would estimate 70-90% of Americans would perish within one year of a major nuclear incident.
    That nuclear winter would be a mother!
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,184
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's planning to destroy all life on Earth for the next several billion years.

    Think about that.
     
  18. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ddyad likes this.
  19. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2015
    Messages:
    18,383
    Likes Received:
    6,088
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's the globalists who want war with Russia because Russia won't play along. Democrats are a fully owned subsidiary of the globalists.
     
    Starcastle and drluggit like this.
  20. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, I think majority would survive.
    Out of the 1,500 nukes Russia has, it’s a safe bet to make that about 1/3 will fail. 90% of their ICBMs use liquid propellant, which means they’d need to fuel them right before launch, and fueling must be done in open air (rocket fuel is very, very flammable) and it takes at least a half an hour to do that. We will know way in advance about their decision to nuke us and we will have time to hit them first - minuteman can be ready to go within 10 minutes and we have a lot of nukes on our subs. Russians have subs too, but they don’t have the network of hydro acoustic sensors in the world ocean like we do. In the event of such conflict, a lot of these small but critical details will not favor Russia. I seriously doubt that even half of those 1,500 nukes would be able to reach the destination.
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2022
    Ddyad likes this.
  21. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,687
    Likes Received:
    25,625
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A nuclear war would be a catastrophe for the whole world, but it would not be the end of the world.

    Chernobyl is a tourist attraction.



    Ditto ground zero in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
     
    Thedimon likes this.
  22. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Actions speak louder than words.
     
  23. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,121
    Likes Received:
    8,714
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nuclear war wouldn’t be a cakewalk, a lot of people would die. But it would not destroy the U.S. or NATO. It sure as hell would destroy Russia though. :)
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2022
  24. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2015
    Messages:
    18,383
    Likes Received:
    6,088
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Here's a man who thought about it:

     
  25. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2015
    Messages:
    18,383
    Likes Received:
    6,088
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And someone once noted that the survivors will envy the dead.
     

Share This Page